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Mac Mini - Good Alternative to Mac Book Pro?

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Mac Mini - Good Alternative to Mac Book Pro? Posted on: 16.05.2013 by Avis Lekic I'm on a budget of about
Rochel Gleese 21.05.2013	Originally Posted by mostapha You realize how much those things cost, right? When the alternative is using a real motherboard and case that cost about $400 total. I'm not saying that's a bad idea. I'm just saying that Apple needs to resurrect the "Mac". Not the Mac Pro, the Mac...a desktop tower than has real slots and bays but isn't workstation hardware that actually matches the "insanely overpriced" criticisms that everyone levies against their entire product line. You wouldn't, unless you wanted to run PCIe based DSP or audio interfaces. Just saying its a viable solution for Macminis and iMacs, not sure what you mean by comparable motherboards unless you mean hackingtosh's?
Rolanda Clodfelder 21.05.2013	Originally Posted by mostapha I'm not saying that's a bad idea. I'm just saying that Apple needs to resurrect the "Mac". Not the Mac Pro, the Mac...a desktop tower than has real slots and bays but isn't workstation hardware that actually matches the "insanely overpriced" criticisms that everyone levies against their entire product line. What is this witchcraft you speak of ? ... Sure there was Powermac towers, but were in the same league as the current Mac Pro's and priced similarly in comparison to the Mac/PC's of today. I for one don't see a need for something in that if their current lineup fills the requirements of 90% of the people out there. No Point in diluting the waters with a user-fuck-up-able machine IMHO when the Mac Pro fills the gap, be that at a higher price than some can stomach.
Dorie Scelzo 21.05.2013	Originally Posted by ekwipt http://www.netstor.com.tw/_03/03_02.php?MTEy http://www.netstor.com.tw/_03/03_02.php?MTE2 http://www.sonnettech.com/product/xmacminiserver.html Enjoy You realize how much those things cost, right? When the alternative is using a real motherboard and case that cost about $400 total. I'm not saying that's a bad idea. I'm just saying that Apple needs to resurrect the "Mac". Not the Mac Pro, the Mac...a desktop tower than has real slots and bays but isn't workstation hardware that actually matches the "insanely overpriced" criticisms that everyone levies against their entire product line. Originally Posted by city_boy07 RAID??? would i need pci slots for running abelton as my main DAW? You wouldn't, unless you wanted to run PCIe based DSP or audio interfaces.
Hayden Raugh 21.05.2013	Originally Posted by ekwipt Me personally would be either Raid cards, or capture cards for video, Red Rockets etc, extra GFX card for Cuda. audio, Sound cards or UADs DJ nothing really, maybe extra USB 3 ports or RAID if you have a lot of files RAID??? would i need pci slots for running abelton as my main DAW?
Hayden Raugh 21.05.2013	Originally Posted by ekwipt http://www.netstor.com.tw/_03/03_02.php?MTEy http://www.netstor.com.tw/_03/03_02.php?MTE2 http://www.sonnettech.com/product/xmacminiserver.html Enjoy sorry to sound like a idiot, im not really that up with all the computer tech.. why would you need extra pci slots?/ what would you use them for. i understand why extra ssds is a good idea.
Dorie Scelzo 20.05.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 The Mini has had a quad core option for nearly 2 years now. The current i7 option is almost as powerful as the top-end MBP. Nice. Now, they just need to make the case big enough for real drive bays (2.5" is fine) that don't require you to take the whole computer apart and maybe a PCIe slot, and they'll have a good computer. BTW, I'm like the worst Apple fanboy ever.
Rochel Gleese 18.05.2013	Originally Posted by city_boy07 Im seriously considering getting one for my home setp... Djing/Producing Will they hold up well with ableton 9 and a few vsts tho? thats the only thing im worried about! I do professional work video editing, I've just sold my MacPro 8Core as the new iMacs are more powerful than it. For audio work they are amazing! mac minis are not great for video because of the intel GFX chips, Petsonally I'd spec out the top iMac 27" or the top Mac mini. Although I prefer laptops now
Dorie Scelzo 17.05.2013	Originally Posted by kooper1980 HAHA did you pick that saying up when you were in London? Don't believe I've heard a non-Brit use the term 'quid' before. Actually, it was before that. It's due to a small number of friends who do/did live in the UK (mostly London, though also Edinburgh). There are a couple little things that I didn't even notice until some random Londoner outside a pub pointed them out. Originally Posted by ekwipt For producing they are amazing, so much bang for your buck. DJing not so much... Lack of screen, keyboard, mouse, plus cable to plug it a ll together = major hassle Sasha toured with an iMac while he was on Ableton. And even that's a little less of a hassle because it has a screen. I don't believe I'd bring a Mac Mini anywhere. The only difference between it and a full desktop is that it fits into a smaller bag. And with things like the BitFenix Prodigy, it's not even that big of a difference anymore. That's why I kind of believe the Mac Minis were a failure. They're cool. But they're a lot harder to work on than they need to be and they aren't that cheap compared to laptops. I really believe the non-retina MBPs are where Apple shines. Everything else seems to require too many sacrifices. Originally Posted by makar1 Might be worth springing for the quad core i7 over the baseline dual core i5. If the Mac Mini has a quad core available, I'd buy it without believeing. You know, if I were in the market for such a computer. I don't like them, but I have the room for a full ATX case sitting next to my desk. Originally Posted by city_boy07 Im seriously considering getting one for my home setp... Djing/Producing Will they hold up well with ableton 9 and a few vsts tho? thats the only thing im worried about! Seems like it'd work okay. But if you're worried and on a budget, Hackintoshes have gotten pretty easy. I used one of the Tonymacx86 suggested builds, and it was about on par with how I remember installing Windows. Easier than Linux. The only thing remotely complicated was figuring out the right bios settings to get my thunderbolt ports working, and I only need them for TB->FW800 adapters.
Hayden Raugh 17.05.2013	Originally Posted by ekwipt For producing they are amazing, so much bang for your buck. DJing not so much... Lack of screen, keyboard, mouse, plus cable to plug it a ll together = major hassle Im seriously considering getting one for my home setp... Djing/Producing Will they hold up well with ableton 9 and a few vsts tho? thats the only thing im worried about!
Rochel Gleese 17.05.2013	Originally Posted by baller95 IMO they're still a great laptop, just not for DJ'ing or producing. For producing they are amazing, so much bang for your buck. DJing not so much... Lack of screen, keyboard, mouse, plus cable to plug it a ll together = major hassle
Kristofer Krauel 17.05.2013	Originally Posted by mostapha ...500 quid? HAHA did you pick that saying up when you were in London? Don't believe I've heard a non-Brit use the term 'quid' before.
Rolanda Clodfelder 23.05.2013	And, I'm sorry, but if you believe that having the option to install hardware means that it's going to make the computer less stable, then you must really suck at computers. That type of thing is not that complicated. Its not complicated if thats the kinda thing you are into, but I believe you give too much credit to the vast majority of non-pro computer users (with the exception of gamers who are unlikely to be buying them anyhow). For almost every prosumer application there's already USB/Firewire/Thunderbolt solution instead of opening up the case to access PCIe or Drive Bays - lets be fair, apples stance on this is "do not open the case". I just see too small a market in creating a machine of low enough spec that will not chip away at their pro line. Less for the end user to Fuck up, Less calls to Apple Support = More money to Apple saved dealing with shitty issues, for every 15 minutes not on the phone trying to explain to someone they installed something unsupported its a $3 saving. At the end of the day its all about the $
Dorie Scelzo 22.05.2013	I mean motherboads/processors that benchmark where Apple would want them. The Mac Mini (and to a lesser extent iMac)'s designs are the reason I'm no longer 100% Apple at home. Almost no one can use an 8-core Xenon. Lots of people can use PCIe slots and drive bays. And, I'm sorry, but if you believe that having the option to install hardware means that it's going to make the computer less stable, then you must really suck at computers. That type of thing is not that complicated.
Rochel Gleese 21.05.2013	Originally Posted by mostapha You realize how much those things cost, right? When the alternative is using a real motherboard and case that cost about $400 total. I'm not saying that's a bad idea. I'm just saying that Apple needs to resurrect the "Mac". Not the Mac Pro, the Mac...a desktop tower than has real slots and bays but isn't workstation hardware that actually matches the "insanely overpriced" criticisms that everyone levies against their entire product line. You wouldn't, unless you wanted to run PCIe based DSP or audio interfaces. Just saying its a viable solution for Macminis and iMacs, not sure what you mean by comparable motherboards unless you mean hackingtosh's?
Rolanda Clodfelder 21.05.2013	Originally Posted by mostapha I'm not saying that's a bad idea. I'm just saying that Apple needs to resurrect the "Mac". Not the Mac Pro, the Mac...a desktop tower than has real slots and bays but isn't workstation hardware that actually matches the "insanely overpriced" criticisms that everyone levies against their entire product line. What is this witchcraft you speak of ? ... Sure there was Powermac towers, but were in the same league as the current Mac Pro's and priced similarly in comparison to the Mac/PC's of today. I for one don't see a need for something in that if their current lineup fills the requirements of 90% of the people out there. No Point in diluting the waters with a user-fuck-up-able machine IMHO when the Mac Pro fills the gap, be that at a higher price than some can stomach.
Dorie Scelzo 21.05.2013	Originally Posted by ekwipt http://www.netstor.com.tw/_03/03_02.php?MTEy http://www.netstor.com.tw/_03/03_02.php?MTE2 http://www.sonnettech.com/product/xmacminiserver.html Enjoy You realize how much those things cost, right? When the alternative is using a real motherboard and case that cost about $400 total. I'm not saying that's a bad idea. I'm just saying that Apple needs to resurrect the "Mac". Not the Mac Pro, the Mac...a desktop tower than has real slots and bays but isn't workstation hardware that actually matches the "insanely overpriced" criticisms that everyone levies against their entire product line. Originally Posted by city_boy07 RAID??? would i need pci slots for running abelton as my main DAW? You wouldn't, unless you wanted to run PCIe based DSP or audio interfaces.
Hayden Raugh 21.05.2013	Originally Posted by ekwipt Me personally would be either Raid cards, or capture cards for video, Red Rockets etc, extra GFX card for Cuda. audio, Sound cards or UADs DJ nothing really, maybe extra USB 3 ports or RAID if you have a lot of files RAID??? would i need pci slots for running abelton as my main DAW?
Rochel Gleese 21.05.2013	Me personally would be either Raid cards, or capture cards for video, Red Rockets etc, extra GFX card for Cuda. audio, Sound cards or UADs DJ nothing really, maybe extra USB 3 ports or RAID if you have a lot of files
Hayden Raugh 21.05.2013	Originally Posted by ekwipt http://www.netstor.com.tw/_03/03_02.php?MTEy http://www.netstor.com.tw/_03/03_02.php?MTE2 http://www.sonnettech.com/product/xmacminiserver.html Enjoy sorry to sound like a idiot, im not really that up with all the computer tech.. why would you need extra pci slots?/ what would you use them for. i understand why extra ssds is a good idea.
Rochel Gleese 20.05.2013	http://www.netstor.com.tw/_03/03_02.php?MTEy http://www.netstor.com.tw/_03/03_02.php?MTE2 http://www.sonnettech.com/product/xmacminiserver.html Enjoy
Dorie Scelzo 20.05.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 The Mini has had a quad core option for nearly 2 years now. The current i7 option is almost as powerful as the top-end MBP. Nice. Now, they just need to make the case big enough for real drive bays (2.5" is fine) that don't require you to take the whole computer apart and maybe a PCIe slot, and they'll have a good computer. BTW, I'm like the worst Apple fanboy ever.
Rochel Gleese 18.05.2013	could be... people have been saying it for the last three years I've given up waiting, anywya for home use a Mac Pro is overkill, unless you need capture cards, raid cards, red rockets etc, the internal space is good, but drives are solo big now you don't really need all that info in one space (unless your doing video or heavy graphics work. IMO of course, i believe Macminis are amazing for audio work. 2.6GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7 16GB 1600MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 2x8GB 256GB Solid State Drive G-Tech 4TB G-RAID Thunderbolt Hard Drive Amazing production machine! 303 posts!
Alphonso Deitchman 18.05.2013	The new Mac Pro could be out this year, and might be the production line that Apple is moving to the US.
Rochel Gleese 18.05.2013	Originally Posted by city_boy07 Im seriously considering getting one for my home setp... Djing/Producing Will they hold up well with ableton 9 and a few vsts tho? thats the only thing im worried about! I do professional work video editing, I've just sold my MacPro 8Core as the new iMacs are more powerful than it. For audio work they are amazing! mac minis are not great for video because of the intel GFX chips, Petsonally I'd spec out the top iMac 27" or the top Mac mini. Although I prefer laptops now
Alphonso Deitchman 17.05.2013	The Mini has had a quad core option for nearly 2 years now. The current i7 option is almost as powerful as the top-end MBP.
Dorie Scelzo 17.05.2013	Originally Posted by kooper1980 HAHA did you pick that saying up when you were in London? Don't believe I've heard a non-Brit use the term 'quid' before. Actually, it was before that. It's due to a small number of friends who do/did live in the UK (mostly London, though also Edinburgh). There are a couple little things that I didn't even notice until some random Londoner outside a pub pointed them out. Originally Posted by ekwipt For producing they are amazing, so much bang for your buck. DJing not so much... Lack of screen, keyboard, mouse, plus cable to plug it a ll together = major hassle Sasha toured with an iMac while he was on Ableton. And even that's a little less of a hassle because it has a screen. I don't believe I'd bring a Mac Mini anywhere. The only difference between it and a full desktop is that it fits into a smaller bag. And with things like the BitFenix Prodigy, it's not even that big of a difference anymore. That's why I kind of believe the Mac Minis were a failure. They're cool. But they're a lot harder to work on than they need to be and they aren't that cheap compared to laptops. I really believe the non-retina MBPs are where Apple shines. Everything else seems to require too many sacrifices. Originally Posted by makar1 Might be worth springing for the quad core i7 over the baseline dual core i5. If the Mac Mini has a quad core available, I'd buy it without believeing. You know, if I were in the market for such a computer. I don't like them, but I have the room for a full ATX case sitting next to my desk. Originally Posted by city_boy07 Im seriously considering getting one for my home setp... Djing/Producing Will they hold up well with ableton 9 and a few vsts tho? thats the only thing im worried about! Seems like it'd work okay. But if you're worried and on a budget, Hackintoshes have gotten pretty easy. I used one of the Tonymacx86 suggested builds, and it was about on par with how I remember installing Windows. Easier than Linux. The only thing remotely complicated was figuring out the right bios settings to get my thunderbolt ports working, and I only need them for TB->FW800 adapters.
Alphonso Deitchman 17.05.2013	Might be worth springing for the quad core i7 over the baseline dual core i5.
Hayden Raugh 17.05.2013	Originally Posted by ekwipt For producing they are amazing, so much bang for your buck. DJing not so much... Lack of screen, keyboard, mouse, plus cable to plug it a ll together = major hassle Im seriously considering getting one for my home setp... Djing/Producing Will they hold up well with ableton 9 and a few vsts tho? thats the only thing im worried about!
Rochel Gleese 17.05.2013	Originally Posted by baller95 IMO they're still a great laptop, just not for DJ'ing or producing. For producing they are amazing, so much bang for your buck. DJing not so much... Lack of screen, keyboard, mouse, plus cable to plug it a ll together = major hassle
Kristofer Krauel 17.05.2013	Originally Posted by mostapha ...500 quid? HAHA did you pick that saying up when you were in London? Don't believe I've heard a non-Brit use the term 'quid' before.
Ela Hoeger 16.05.2013	Originally Posted by mostapha I don't believe I'd use a Mac Mini if portability was an issue. I admire what Apple tried to do with them, but ultimately I believe they're a failed experiment. What kind of a laptop can you get for 500 quid? IMO they're still a great laptop, just not for DJ'ing or producing.
Dorie Scelzo 16.05.2013	I don't believe I'd use a Mac Mini if portability was an issue. I admire what Apple tried to do with them, but ultimately I believe they're a failed experiment. What kind of a laptop can you get for 500 quid?
Ela Hoeger 16.05.2013	For the price you can get a much better PC. Don't go with apple just for the name.
Chet Gatts 16.05.2013	I was considering this option but only for my home setup as I'm trying to teach my fiancee how to dj. I have a 13"Mbp and it sucks sometimes because one of us will need the computer for something, which may cut into my practice time. But there are a few problems when using a mac mini, specifically for gigging out. 1. yes its portable but now you have to find another plug for your monitor. And most of us know, depending on the gig you might find yourself lost without an extra plug.(*dj tip: bring extra power bars) 2. no optical drive(CD/DVD) mind you newer MBP have dropped the optical drive as the future is physical medialess. I actually took my optical drive out for an optibay holding my old HD. Now my optical drive is in an enclosure and ready to go during those times at gigs when people have cds to be played. But yeah no optical drive on a mac mini 3. people cant see a glowing apple and know that you're a real dj..... ;p
Rena Estabrook 16.05.2013	^ I was in and out of the house a lot and needed a portable library.
Hayden Raugh 16.05.2013	Originally Posted by HighTopFade Agree. My Mac Mini's DJ use didn't last very long. why was that? lack of screen?
Rena Estabrook 16.05.2013	Originally Posted by padi_04 Personally i'll just grab a regular laptop for convenience sake. Agree. My Mac Mini's DJ use didn't last very long.
Nedra Fresneda 16.05.2013	I wouldn't go any lower than 13" to play live. Personally i'll just grab a regular laptop for convenience sake.
Nereida Jasnoch 16.05.2013	Maybe just get a

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