Idea for future dvs advancement? Plausible? Worth while?
Idea for future dvs advancement? Plausible? Worth while? Posted on: 23.05.2013 by Ninfa Mazariegos I feel that one of the great things about having good feedback from your gear
is being able to do your thing without having to look between it and your laptop. Cdj's have the advantage of displaying track information above the jog wheel. Do you believe that having a display strip that was adhesive and layed between the pitch fader and platter of a technics 1200 (there is plenty of space) to display wave forms and track lists would be a way to keep the eyes centered at the job at hand (between the needle and pitch fader) and keep the art form as true to its nature? Such as putting the laptop on a shelf out of site with full focus on the hardware and song selection? I have found that while I'm searching for my next scratch sample in the heat of the moment, I'm looking at the screen while I'm pushing the record around and when I find the sound that I'm looking for, I'm looking at the laptop instead of where the record needs to be in relation to the needle. What are your thoughts? | |
| Doreen Schurle 23.05.2013 | Personally I'm a big fan of the concept that visible waveforms were - and are - the "next evolution" in DJing. I made the switch from vinyl to digital DJing when I saw a DJ performing locally without headphones... I was so confused as to how he was mixing properly, and when I asked him, he said "oh I do it all visually using the waveforms". To me, that was like... a complete and utter epiphany. Now I do the same thing, only using my headphones for EQing and previewing new/unfamiliar tracks if I want to experiment live. I was prepping for a set a couple of weeks ago whilst I was at the venue, and while I was setting cuepoints, one of the DJs said to me, "how are you doing that without using your headphones?" and explained it was just a case of getting to know the waveforms and what they actually mean. The only way I'd ever consider not looking at my laptop during a set is if my controllers had waveform display on them. NOT the stripe displays of CDJs or HID-connected 2000/900s, but proper zoomed waveforms (preferably spectrum ones |
| Doreen Schurle 23.05.2013 | Personally I'm a big fan of the concept that visible waveforms were - and are - the "next evolution" in DJing. I made the switch from vinyl to digital DJing when I saw a DJ performing locally without headphones... I was so confused as to how he was mixing properly, and when I asked him, he said "oh I do it all visually using the waveforms". To me, that was like... a complete and utter epiphany. Now I do the same thing, only using my headphones for EQing and previewing new/unfamiliar tracks if I want to experiment live. I was prepping for a set a couple of weeks ago whilst I was at the venue, and while I was setting cuepoints, one of the DJs said to me, "how are you doing that without using your headphones?" and explained it was just a case of getting to know the waveforms and what they actually mean. The only way I'd ever consider not looking at my laptop during a set is if my controllers had waveform display on them. NOT the stripe displays of CDJs or HID-connected 2000/900s, but proper zoomed waveforms (preferably spectrum ones |
| Doreen Schurle 23.05.2013 | Personally I'm a big fan of the concept that visible waveforms were - and are - the "next evolution" in DJing. I made the switch from vinyl to digital DJing when I saw a DJ performing locally without headphones... I was so confused as to how he was mixing properly, and when I asked him, he said "oh I do it all visually using the waveforms". To me, that was like... a complete and utter epiphany. Now I do the same thing, only using my headphones for EQing and previewing new/unfamiliar tracks if I want to experiment live. I was prepping for a set a couple of weeks ago whilst I was at the venue, and while I was setting cuepoints, one of the DJs said to me, "how are you doing that without using your headphones?" and explained it was just a case of getting to know the waveforms and what they actually mean. The only way I'd ever consider not looking at my laptop during a set is if my controllers had waveform display on them. NOT the stripe displays of CDJs or HID-connected 2000/900s, but proper zoomed waveforms (preferably spectrum ones |
| Doreen Schurle 23.05.2013 | Personally I'm a big fan of the concept that visible waveforms were - and are - the "next evolution" in DJing. I made the switch from vinyl to digital DJing when I saw a DJ performing locally without headphones... I was so confused as to how he was mixing properly, and when I asked him, he said "oh I do it all visually using the waveforms". To me, that was like... a complete and utter epiphany. Now I do the same thing, only using my headphones for EQing and previewing new/unfamiliar tracks if I want to experiment live. I was prepping for a set a couple of weeks ago whilst I was at the venue, and while I was setting cuepoints, one of the DJs said to me, "how are you doing that without using your headphones?" and explained it was just a case of getting to know the waveforms and what they actually mean. The only way I'd ever consider not looking at my laptop during a set is if my controllers had waveform display on them. NOT the stripe displays of CDJs or HID-connected 2000/900s, but proper zoomed waveforms (preferably spectrum ones |
| Doreen Schurle 23.05.2013 | Personally I'm a big fan of the concept that visible waveforms were - and are - the "next evolution" in DJing. I made the switch from vinyl to digital DJing when I saw a DJ performing locally without headphones... I was so confused as to how he was mixing properly, and when I asked him, he said "oh I do it all visually using the waveforms". To me, that was like... a complete and utter epiphany. Now I do the same thing, only using my headphones for EQing and previewing new/unfamiliar tracks if I want to experiment live. I was prepping for a set a couple of weeks ago whilst I was at the venue, and while I was setting cuepoints, one of the DJs said to me, "how are you doing that without using your headphones?" and explained it was just a case of getting to know the waveforms and what they actually mean. The only way I'd ever consider not looking at my laptop during a set is if my controllers had waveform display on them. NOT the stripe displays of CDJs or HID-connected 2000/900s, but proper zoomed waveforms (preferably spectrum ones |
| Doreen Schurle 23.05.2013 | Personally I'm a big fan of the concept that visible waveforms were - and are - the "next evolution" in DJing. I made the switch from vinyl to digital DJing when I saw a DJ performing locally without headphones... I was so confused as to how he was mixing properly, and when I asked him, he said "oh I do it all visually using the waveforms". To me, that was like... a complete and utter epiphany. Now I do the same thing, only using my headphones for EQing and previewing new/unfamiliar tracks if I want to experiment live. I was prepping for a set a couple of weeks ago whilst I was at the venue, and while I was setting cuepoints, one of the DJs said to me, "how are you doing that without using your headphones?" and explained it was just a case of getting to know the waveforms and what they actually mean. The only way I'd ever consider not looking at my laptop during a set is if my controllers had waveform display on them. NOT the stripe displays of CDJs or HID-connected 2000/900s, but proper zoomed waveforms (preferably spectrum ones |
| Doreen Schurle 23.05.2013 | Personally I'm a big fan of the concept that visible waveforms were - and are - the "next evolution" in DJing. I made the switch from vinyl to digital DJing when I saw a DJ performing locally without headphones... I was so confused as to how he was mixing properly, and when I asked him, he said "oh I do it all visually using the waveforms". To me, that was like... a complete and utter epiphany. Now I do the same thing, only using my headphones for EQing and previewing new/unfamiliar tracks if I want to experiment live. I was prepping for a set a couple of weeks ago whilst I was at the venue, and while I was setting cuepoints, one of the DJs said to me, "how are you doing that without using your headphones?" and explained it was just a case of getting to know the waveforms and what they actually mean. The only way I'd ever consider not looking at my laptop during a set is if my controllers had waveform display on them. NOT the stripe displays of CDJs or HID-connected 2000/900s, but proper zoomed waveforms (preferably spectrum ones |
| Doreen Schurle 23.05.2013 | Personally I'm a big fan of the concept that visible waveforms were - and are - the "next evolution" in DJing. I made the switch from vinyl to digital DJing when I saw a DJ performing locally without headphones... I was so confused as to how he was mixing properly, and when I asked him, he said "oh I do it all visually using the waveforms". To me, that was like... a complete and utter epiphany. Now I do the same thing, only using my headphones for EQing and previewing new/unfamiliar tracks if I want to experiment live. I was prepping for a set a couple of weeks ago whilst I was at the venue, and while I was setting cuepoints, one of the DJs said to me, "how are you doing that without using your headphones?" and explained it was just a case of getting to know the waveforms and what they actually mean. The only way I'd ever consider not looking at my laptop during a set is if my controllers had waveform display on them. NOT the stripe displays of CDJs or HID-connected 2000/900s, but proper zoomed waveforms (preferably spectrum ones |
| Doreen Schurle 23.05.2013 | Personally I'm a big fan of the concept that visible waveforms were - and are - the "next evolution" in DJing. I made the switch from vinyl to digital DJing when I saw a DJ performing locally without headphones... I was so confused as to how he was mixing properly, and when I asked him, he said "oh I do it all visually using the waveforms". To me, that was like... a complete and utter epiphany. Now I do the same thing, only using my headphones for EQing and previewing new/unfamiliar tracks if I want to experiment live. I was prepping for a set a couple of weeks ago whilst I was at the venue, and while I was setting cuepoints, one of the DJs said to me, "how are you doing that without using your headphones?" and explained it was just a case of getting to know the waveforms and what they actually mean. The only way I'd ever consider not looking at my laptop during a set is if my controllers had waveform display on them. NOT the stripe displays of CDJs or HID-connected 2000/900s, but proper zoomed waveforms (preferably spectrum ones |
| Doreen Schurle 23.05.2013 | Personally I'm a big fan of the concept that visible waveforms were - and are - the "next evolution" in DJing. I made the switch from vinyl to digital DJing when I saw a DJ performing locally without headphones... I was so confused as to how he was mixing properly, and when I asked him, he said "oh I do it all visually using the waveforms". To me, that was like... a complete and utter epiphany. Now I do the same thing, only using my headphones for EQing and previewing new/unfamiliar tracks if I want to experiment live. I was prepping for a set a couple of weeks ago whilst I was at the venue, and while I was setting cuepoints, one of the DJs said to me, "how are you doing that without using your headphones?" and explained it was just a case of getting to know the waveforms and what they actually mean. The only way I'd ever consider not looking at my laptop during a set is if my controllers had waveform display on them. NOT the stripe displays of CDJs or HID-connected 2000/900s, but proper zoomed waveforms (preferably spectrum ones |
| Doreen Schurle 23.05.2013 | Personally I'm a big fan of the concept that visible waveforms were - and are - the "next evolution" in DJing. I made the switch from vinyl to digital DJing when I saw a DJ performing locally without headphones... I was so confused as to how he was mixing properly, and when I asked him, he said "oh I do it all visually using the waveforms". To me, that was like... a complete and utter epiphany. Now I do the same thing, only using my headphones for EQing and previewing new/unfamiliar tracks if I want to experiment live. I was prepping for a set a couple of weeks ago whilst I was at the venue, and while I was setting cuepoints, one of the DJs said to me, "how are you doing that without using your headphones?" and explained it was just a case of getting to know the waveforms and what they actually mean. The only way I'd ever consider not looking at my laptop during a set is if my controllers had waveform display on them. NOT the stripe displays of CDJs or HID-connected 2000/900s, but proper zoomed waveforms (preferably spectrum ones |
| Doreen Schurle 23.05.2013 | Personally I'm a big fan of the concept that visible waveforms were - and are - the "next evolution" in DJing. I made the switch from vinyl to digital DJing when I saw a DJ performing locally without headphones... I was so confused as to how he was mixing properly, and when I asked him, he said "oh I do it all visually using the waveforms". To me, that was like... a complete and utter epiphany. Now I do the same thing, only using my headphones for EQing and previewing new/unfamiliar tracks if I want to experiment live. I was prepping for a set a couple of weeks ago whilst I was at the venue, and while I was setting cuepoints, one of the DJs said to me, "how are you doing that without using your headphones?" and explained it was just a case of getting to know the waveforms and what they actually mean. The only way I'd ever consider not looking at my laptop during a set is if my controllers had waveform display on them. NOT the stripe displays of CDJs or HID-connected 2000/900s, but proper zoomed waveforms (preferably spectrum ones |
| Doreen Schurle 23.05.2013 | Personally I'm a big fan of the concept that visible waveforms were - and are - the "next evolution" in DJing. I made the switch from vinyl to digital DJing when I saw a DJ performing locally without headphones... I was so confused as to how he was mixing properly, and when I asked him, he said "oh I do it all visually using the waveforms". To me, that was like... a complete and utter epiphany. Now I do the same thing, only using my headphones for EQing and previewing new/unfamiliar tracks if I want to experiment live. I was prepping for a set a couple of weeks ago whilst I was at the venue, and while I was setting cuepoints, one of the DJs said to me, "how are you doing that without using your headphones?" and explained it was just a case of getting to know the waveforms and what they actually mean. The only way I'd ever consider not looking at my laptop during a set is if my controllers had waveform display on them. NOT the stripe displays of CDJs or HID-connected 2000/900s, but proper zoomed waveforms (preferably spectrum ones |
| Merlyn Birchfield 23.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by Patch
I've definitely taken to putting the laptop off to the side somewhere instead of directly in my face. Laptop stands have lost their appeal to me... it disconnects me from them! |
| Merlyn Birchfield 23.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by Patch
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| Ninfa Mazariegos 23.05.2013 | I feel that one of the great things about having good feedback from your gear is being able to do your thing without having to look between it and your laptop. Cdj's have the advantage of displaying track information above the jog wheel. Do you believe that having a display strip that was adhesive and layed between the pitch fader and platter of a technics 1200 (there is plenty of space) to display wave forms and track lists would be a way to keep the eyes centered at the job at hand (between the needle and pitch fader) and keep the art form as true to its nature? Such as putting the laptop on a shelf out of site with full focus on the hardware and song selection? I have found that while I'm searching for my next scratch sample in the heat of the moment, I'm looking at the screen while I'm pushing the record around and when I find the sound that I'm looking for, I'm looking at the laptop instead of where the record needs to be in relation to the needle. What are your thoughts? |
| Dedra Kreinbring 23.05.2013 | I believe a small browser screen in mixers is a great idea. Wouldn't be hard at all for NI to include a screen at the top, which simply shows the track name of the track you are currently hovering over in the browser |
| Annalisa Shogren 24.05.2013 | I'm all for using waveforms if you've learnt to beatmatch. If you haven't, get back to school. |
| Johnsie Kingrea 23.05.2013 | With Maschine NI proved you can make music all from your laptop without ever having to look at the screen. I'd love to see them do the same with Traktor. It's crazy how even something as simple as having the Loop indicator on the Z2 can decrease your screen staring (you don't have to double check to make sure you have the right loop length and make sure that you actually disabled the loop) As far as browsing goes it's not like you need a fancy screen to do that. Use a Maschine screen at the top of the mixer, allow for various tags (artist, genre, track, bpm) 2 buttons to load into the decks and then a simple waveform view. |
| Doreen Schurle 23.05.2013 | Personally I'm a big fan of the concept that visible waveforms were - and are - the "next evolution" in DJing. I made the switch from vinyl to digital DJing when I saw a DJ performing locally without headphones... I was so confused as to how he was mixing properly, and when I asked him, he said "oh I do it all visually using the waveforms". To me, that was like... a complete and utter epiphany. Now I do the same thing, only using my headphones for EQing and previewing new/unfamiliar tracks if I want to experiment live. I was prepping for a set a couple of weeks ago whilst I was at the venue, and while I was setting cuepoints, one of the DJs said to me, "how are you doing that without using your headphones?" and explained it was just a case of getting to know the waveforms and what they actually mean. The only way I'd ever consider not looking at my laptop during a set is if my controllers had waveform display on them. NOT the stripe displays of CDJs or HID-connected 2000/900s, but proper zoomed waveforms (preferably spectrum ones |
| Sonja Roybal 23.05.2013 | Actually, NI could release a class compliant mixer that allows you to use the iPad app as the interface. Solid, modular cdj style controllers also need to happen. |
| Brunilda Kora 23.05.2013 | Yup. A little touch screen on a mixer would be fuckin' awesome. |
| Sonja Roybal 23.05.2013 | I believe it would be interesting, though probably financially foolish, if NI developed a z4 style mixer with enough processing power to run Traktor and a pop up style screen for browsing. They could also develop CDJ style controllers with jogs and usb stick inputs. It would basically be NI's answer to Rekordbox with the hub being the mixer instead of the CDJ's. |
| Sonja Roybal 23.05.2013 | I believe the answer is a mixer with a browser. Use the computer's storage and system resources, but use the mixer for a display. |
| Merlyn Birchfield 23.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by Patch
I've definitely taken to putting the laptop off to the side somewhere instead of directly in my face. Laptop stands have lost their appeal to me... it disconnects me from them! |
| Brunilda Kora 23.05.2013 | Cool. I might try putting my laptop on top of an old record box-bag on the floor. So everytime I need to change tunes, I have to duck down behind the tables. Ah - that takes me back! |
| Merlyn Birchfield 23.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by Patch
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| Alphonso Deitchman 23.05.2013 | Basically Traktor DJ just needs HID compatibility? |
| Brunilda Kora 23.05.2013 | Good point. I really like the idea of a "Browser ONLY" version of Traktor, that would display ONLY the browser, and could be run on a tablet. I believe we need to get BACK to learning routines and techniques. It would mean using your laptop for preparation and practice, but performing using only your hardware, and some kind of display device used for selecting and loading tacks. A mixer with a small browser screen would be truly awesome... |
| Bertie Metro 23.05.2013 | Create your own scratch records, and learn them. Then add cue points to them. Voila ! You can then jump around your record, and know where you are. I believe that i probably know where all the samples are on at least several scratch records, ie Dirtstyle Deluxe Shampoo for exemple. It's just a matter of knowing them |
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