Hakkasan LV - A piss off to anyone else?

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Hakkasan LV - A piss off to anyone else?
Posted on: 08.04.2013 by Georgie Lukowiak
I honestly don't even know anymore.

It seems like every superstar DJ is saying "I do it for the music" then goes off to play for ridiculous sums of money at huge clubs. But this new club, an 80,000 square foot superclub...paying 100 Million USD and hasn't even opened yet? Absolutely ridiculous.

Ibiza WAS the party capital of the world in many peoples eyes (yes of course there is Miami & such, but let's get real here..Ibiza was the more internationally known destination for dance music)

WHY LAS VEGAS. Why is this new club absolutely shitting on every other club in the world, making the small club scene look like horse shit (excuse my grammar), but it's true. I want to know what you guys believe.

Carlee Pickard
24.05.2013
Originally Posted by Era 7
also my brain does not associate mainstream/commercial with hate. my brain associates 6 minutes of saw wave noise with high pitched screaches thrown in that could as well be a tinitus with hate.
This is a fair statement. I'll be honest, I spend a lot of my time chatting with the people on here / from here. I have learned an insane amount of things from people on here like Tekki, Jessie, Padi, PhotoJoJo and COUNTLESS others (Jus mentioning those guys specifically since they're mods and are always active). I know the wealth of information and knowledge that's available to everyone on here and I just wish people would be more constructive instead of just hate spewing out to act cool.

Idk, maybe you're right and I just need to be re-introduced to the internet and community s and reality of what goes on online.
Tesha Freudenstein
24.05.2013
Originally Posted by Coldfuzion
I agree whole heartedly. DJTT is becoming more and more of a hate place and its disheartening. To the OP, you don't believe at least some of them got into DJ'ing and producing cause its something they love to do? Fucking absurd.

Does everyone on here just start hating the minute they see EDM (well lets be real more like electro house) spreading or becoming more commercial? Do you even understand what mainstream means? Or do you automatically associate it with the word "hate" in your heads?
if you believe DJTT is a "hate place", you haven't been to enough community s. welcome to the internet.

also my brain does not associate mainstream/commercial with hate. my brain associates 6 minutes of saw wave noise with high pitched screaches thrown in that could as well be a tinitus with hate.
Carlee Pickard
24.05.2013
Originally Posted by bluegrassdj
this pic is gets hundreds of "edm is total shit/you're just jealous cuz their rich" comments each place i've seen it posted on facebook. all that talent in the same room looks pretty impressive i gotta say. definitely money talking.

I agree whole heartedly. DJTT is becoming more and more of a hate place and its disheartening. To the OP, you don't believe at least some of them got into DJ'ing and producing cause its something they love to do? Fucking absurd.

Does everyone on here just start hating the minute they see EDM (well lets be real more like electro house) spreading or becoming more commercial? Do you even understand what mainstream means? Or do you automatically associate it with the word "hate" in your heads?
Romelia Stankard
10.04.2013
Originally Posted by LanceBlaise
link please
http://hakkasanlv.com/

check out that artist page. They even have little interviews and individual profile pages with all the "hakkasan artists."
Efrain Scharr
10.04.2013
Originally Posted by balakoth
Google, they say.. is pretty good for things like this
you should google "humor" and "sarcasm"....
Efrain Scharr
10.04.2013
Originally Posted by Karlos Santos
Wow I just checked the website out..! Seriously, is that impressing anybody? It looks like corporate hell.
link please
Lilliana Perris
24.05.2013
Right...I see he is on the Artist list too..but not in the pic above.

mmmmmm.....
Lilliana Perris
24.05.2013
LOL....Wonder what DeadMau5 has to say about it.

KEKEKEKEKEKE

*Poke Poke*
Carlee Pickard
24.05.2013
Originally Posted by Era 7
also my brain does not associate mainstream/commercial with hate. my brain associates 6 minutes of saw wave noise with high pitched screaches thrown in that could as well be a tinitus with hate.
This is a fair statement. I'll be honest, I spend a lot of my time chatting with the people on here / from here. I have learned an insane amount of things from people on here like Tekki, Jessie, Padi, PhotoJoJo and COUNTLESS others (Jus mentioning those guys specifically since they're mods and are always active). I know the wealth of information and knowledge that's available to everyone on here and I just wish people would be more constructive instead of just hate spewing out to act cool.

Idk, maybe you're right and I just need to be re-introduced to the internet and community s and reality of what goes on online.
Tesha Freudenstein
24.05.2013
Originally Posted by Coldfuzion
I agree whole heartedly. DJTT is becoming more and more of a hate place and its disheartening. To the OP, you don't believe at least some of them got into DJ'ing and producing cause its something they love to do? Fucking absurd.

Does everyone on here just start hating the minute they see EDM (well lets be real more like electro house) spreading or becoming more commercial? Do you even understand what mainstream means? Or do you automatically associate it with the word "hate" in your heads?
if you believe DJTT is a "hate place", you haven't been to enough community s. welcome to the internet.

also my brain does not associate mainstream/commercial with hate. my brain associates 6 minutes of saw wave noise with high pitched screaches thrown in that could as well be a tinitus with hate.
Hank Guidas
24.05.2013
Of course some of them got talent. But the problem is it seems they jumped on some wagon. Where people like Dj Sneak, Derrick Carter etc. would probably never say yes to such an offer, because they would see it as "not being true" to house music.
Margaretta Hebenstreit
24.05.2013
People going to vegas are exactly the people looking for music and clubs like this so i believe this might actually work out quite well. And the artists that play there will definately enjoy it, i mean whats better than playing for lots of people who like your music? They pull people who want to see them and both djs and the crowd will have a great time for sure. I dont get why you hate on that.

I personally would always pick a small underground techno rave over a "superclub" but that doesn't mean everyone likes it that way. Different tastes of different people.

I've been to vegas once and didn't like it at all, it was not only the clubbing that i didn't enjoy but also the whole gambling thing. Seeing the girl who cleans your hotel room spending all of her tipps and salary on the gambling machines in the same hotel she works actually disgusted me, but what i heard from other people going there they had the time of their lives...

I'm happy to go to small underground venues, other people are happy to buy a magnum bottle of moet at a club while steve aoki is playing. Nothing wrong with that.
Carlee Pickard
24.05.2013
Originally Posted by bluegrassdj
this pic is gets hundreds of "edm is total shit/you're just jealous cuz their rich" comments each place i've seen it posted on facebook. all that talent in the same room looks pretty impressive i gotta say. definitely money talking.

I agree whole heartedly. DJTT is becoming more and more of a hate place and its disheartening. To the OP, you don't believe at least some of them got into DJ'ing and producing cause its something they love to do? Fucking absurd.

Does everyone on here just start hating the minute they see EDM (well lets be real more like electro house) spreading or becoming more commercial? Do you even understand what mainstream means? Or do you automatically associate it with the word "hate" in your heads?
Pam Stolley
23.05.2013
this pic is gets hundreds of "edm is total shit/you're just jealous cuz their rich" comments each place i've seen it posted on facebook. all that talent in the same room looks pretty impressive i gotta say. definitely money talking.

Romelia Stankard
10.04.2013
Originally Posted by LanceBlaise
link please
http://hakkasanlv.com/

check out that artist page. They even have little interviews and individual profile pages with all the "hakkasan artists."
Efrain Scharr
10.04.2013
Originally Posted by balakoth
Google, they say.. is pretty good for things like this
you should google "humor" and "sarcasm"....
Efrain Scharr
10.04.2013
Originally Posted by Karlos Santos
Wow I just checked the website out..! Seriously, is that impressing anybody? It looks like corporate hell.
link please
Lashawn Maycock
10.04.2013
Oh dear, just had a look, never heard of Hakkasan LV til now, clicked on artists, then clicked on the browser 'X'...

This seem to be just a result of the commercial/pop 'EDM' (still very much dislike this term) explosion in the US, won't affect the underground clubs/evening s/scenes around the rest of the world where the real magic in dance music happens. I don't expect the Ibiza clubs will be worried either.... for Europeans, much, much cheaper to get to Beefa.
Latina Samon
10.04.2013
It makes no difference to any scene whatsoever. It's just another club in Vegas pandering to the EDM crowd.
Vegas is awesome but not for the music.
Shawn Vanhaitsma
09.04.2013
Originally Posted by LanceBlaise
WTF is Hakkasan LV? I feel like we are being trolled. Little kids will believe anything that they put on the innerwebies.
Google, they say.. is pretty good for things like this
Shawn Vanhaitsma
09.04.2013
Originally Posted by Era 7
you really didn't figure that out until now?
He makes it sound like hed turn down 6 figures to do an hour lone boring Drone set hehe. I sure wouldn't
Margie Pavell
09.04.2013
There is money to be made on EDM now...hence...
nayit ruiz jaramillo
09.04.2013
Wow I just checked the website out..! Seriously, is that impressing anybody? It looks like corporate hell.
Margie Pavell
09.04.2013
Originally Posted by Karlos Santos
I'm with Ed on this. I don't even know where this superclub is or what it's called...

Who cares about a superclub ? If people are paying stupid money for entry etc then it may as well be on the moon, it won't have any impact on me, the djs I like or the music I listen to.

Pretty sure that no dj I like would ever be playing there (wherever there is).

Super clubs ( even the uk ones) have never meant anything to me. They represent everything that I despise about dance music.
Once i left that wherehouse party in eastern downtown Los Angeles, under the Whittier bridge, with Claude VonStroke as the headliner...f*ck VIP bottle service bullshit...

(i bought beers in the can six at a time for 30 bucks total...getting a drink was an adventure) (they were Tecate)
nayit ruiz jaramillo
09.04.2013
I'm with Ed on this. I don't even know where this superclub is or what it's called...

Who cares about a superclub ? If people are paying stupid money for entry etc then it may as well be on the moon, it won't have any impact on me, the djs I like or the music I listen to.

Pretty sure that no dj I like would ever be playing there (wherever there is).

Super clubs ( even the uk ones) have never meant anything to me. They represent everything that I despise about dance music.
Emelina Chillson
09.04.2013
Hakkasan is the newest club opening up inside of the MGM. They completely renovated the FOH and outside entrance of the hotel for it.
Efrain Scharr
09.04.2013
WTF is Hakkasan LV? I feel like we are being trolled. Little kids will believe anything that they put on the innerwebies.
Margie Pavell
09.04.2013
I'm with xone...who really cared about bottle service and VIP areas? I'd rather be at a wherehouse party than some mega club with shit people and over priced drinks...
Romelia Stankard
09.04.2013
Originally Posted by SwedeDreams
WHY LAS VEGAS. Why is this new club absolutely shitting on every other club in the world, making the small club scene look like horse shit (excuse my grammar), but it's true. I want to know what you guys believe.

how does this make small clubs look bad?

I had never heard of this thing until now, who cares? Just another VIPcentric overpriced superclub.

Looking at their opening lineup and artist page I don't believe I would go there if you paid me.
Jetta Drenzek
09.04.2013
Admittedly, I looked at the "Hakkasan Artist" page and saw 90% of the big name DJs are apparently "Hakkasan Artists". I had this vision of the promoter holding out the contract, saying

"Just sign here, here and... Here, and we'll transfer your 3 million dollars. And we own your brand"
"Pardon?"
"And then we shake your hand. And the deal is done."
"Oh. Ok!"
Emelina Chillson
09.04.2013
Hakkasan opens on the 18th. The headliners are getting paid buku bucks but those of us playing their normal hours arent being paid low amounts. Not the entire square footage is the club space. Most of the floor space is actually dedicated to the restaruant and a connected lounge.

The club scene here has never affected the underground scene. I dont see how it would affect the club scene anywhere else.

I look forward to going to opening evening and playing there next month. NBL
Normand Kaminsky
09.04.2013
there is another club open in vegas at the same time that is doing it the same way. Its not shitting on any one. Vegas has always been a go big or go home town. The the EDM explosion in the US the past couple years this is no suprise to me what so ever. They have always had big name djs in vegas, these 2 clubs are just putting a lot of them under the same roof. Oakenfold was a resisdent DJ at club in the early 2000s that gods kitchen took over in vegas. Its nothing new.
Pam Thibodeaux
09.04.2013
I don't believe Las Vegas is the scene for Music,
In my opinion, that club won't grow and eventually will die.
Tesha Freudenstein
09.04.2013
Originally Posted by SwedeDreams
It seems like every superstar DJ is saying "I do it for the music" then goes off to play for ridiculous sums of money at huge clubs.
you really didn't figure that out until now?
Matt Kane
09.04.2013
so what?
i couldn
Meridith Betsinger
09.04.2013
Time will tell.

Considering the tourism in Las Vegas, I would imagine it's a sound business investment.
It's too soon to even discuss a global impact and honestly I doubt it'll change anything as Vegas brings "nothing" to the table apart from an experience. You don't hear about the locals and a "scene" and all that fluffy goodness.

Ibiza grew organically over time(brits going on holiday and coming back transformed by the experience and telling all their friends etc), Vegas is trying to fabricate something out of thin air...

There's a place for big and small clubs in this scene, I really believe that, but in order for small places to be successful (and this applies without even taking the wow factor of big clubs, big name djs) they need to be all they can be at their scale.
Good location, good design, good music, good sound system.
I am genuinely shocked at how little attention is paid to these details in many small clubs...personally I refuse to go (at least not repeatedly) somewhere that has a horrid sound system...

But in the end, we only represent a fraction of the people who go out(the others do it for fun, for booze, for girls .... and perhaps for music). We are also going to perceive all of this on a bigger scale and be more demanding in regards to the finer details.
The end user decides....

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