Choosing Proper Equipment
Choosing Proper Equipment Posted on: 25.05.2013 by Terisa Selling Guys I am noob. I going to start to give my life to djing. I am asking you that which gear
combination is good for the start. I wanted to play in small clubs after working with my setup for 6 months.First combination is; Behringer DDM4000Mixer $350 Gemini CDJ - 650 $250 x2= $500 Pioneer RMX-1000 (for using club) $750 Total=$1500 Second combination is; Numark 4trak or Pioneer T1 $800 Gemini CDJ - 650 $250 x2= $500 Native Instruments X1 $200 Total=$1500 Third combination is; Behringer DDM4000Mixer $350 Gemini CDJ - 700 $375 x2= $750 Native Instruments X1 $200 Numark Orbit $100 Total=$1400 I told you that I am noob. Please help me that choosing right combination for learn and being local club dj fastly. Thank you.. | |
| Arnulfo Morten 31.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by SlvrDragon50
i've been in many situations where I had to use DVS instead of CDJ in HID mode... like when your the opener and the headliner uses turntables. You don't wanna be that guy that makes them change out the gear . but then again this is Traktor community s where guys will bring there s4 and plug into 1 channel of a DJM2000.... do what yall like |
| Doreen Schurle 26.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by smittten
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| Doreen Schurle 26.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by Jester
In two of the three venues I worked toevening , the DJs had brought their own mixers because they either didn't like the brand of the house mixer (one guy brought a DJM-800 because the venue had a Xone:62), or the general condition of the gear was sub-par. Whatever setup you decide to go with (modular controllers, CDJs, or all-in-ones), make sure you have enough gear of your OWN for a complete setup, just in case the gear in the venue isn't up to scratch. |
| Latoria Kavulich 26.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by makar1
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| Julissa Serrone 26.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by octostout
I believe also years back, having to make a good sized investment in decks and a mixer also almost forced you to learn properly because of the investment one had made. The instant gratification generation wants to spend as little as possible, hit a few buttons and call it a day. Kinda sucks, but there's a huge market of them. |
| Doreen Schurle 26.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by octostout
Buying a cheap controller (especially a second hand one) is a MUCH lower risk to everyone involved. |
| Kathe Stump 27.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
I'm a Traktor performance-heavy DJ. I constantly make fun of CDJ DJs who just transition between tracks... and even I would still prefer a kid spent a grand on CDJs than start using Traktor on whatever midi controller they can afford. Trust me, I started DJing when the very first hercules controllers started coming out, and I got distracted by ean golden's stupid shenanigans, when I should have been learning to DJ. Now I wish I'd just started out with a pairoof CDJs and a mixer until i was ready to do performance-DJing. |
| Doreen Schurle 26.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by makar1
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| Karisa Dieleman 31.05.2013 | DVS much nicer for scratching..... |
| Arnulfo Morten 31.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by SlvrDragon50
i've been in many situations where I had to use DVS instead of CDJ in HID mode... like when your the opener and the headliner uses turntables. You don't wanna be that guy that makes them change out the gear . but then again this is Traktor community s where guys will bring there s4 and plug into 1 channel of a DJM2000.... do what yall like |
| Karisa Dieleman 31.05.2013 | essential question is traktor or serato in my opinion!!! just get a used s4 and see if you like it.... |
| Audrey Pinda 28.05.2013 | If you're just playing at home... do you need a full 4 channel mixer right away? That would be one of the things I'd really believe about first. I'd go with a solid 2 channel mixer with good in's/out's to add an FX unit later on. There are a lot of really solid 2 channel mixers out there (without FX) that are going to give a lot better sound quality than the DDM-4000. (I liked that mixer before I ever used a nice one, but then I used a nice one and you can hear the difference in sound quality if you have a decent system). Personally I'd look for a Rane TTM-56 or Rane TTM-56s and you're going to have a hell of a solid mixer with good ins and outs. Something to believe about right now as well is the Pioneer CDJ-850's are on an 8 payment plan through http://www.americanmusical.com/ which brings it down to a little over $112 per CDJ per month. That's something to believe about. Getting a set of used 1200's isn't bad either, and you can find deals on them, or standard rate is roughly $400 a pop, which is still less than solid CDJ's. I like Serato, so I'll always lean toward that if you want to get a computer involved with your setup. I've seen SL1 boxes go from $150-$300 on Craigslist, and it's pretty reasonable. If you do go with the CDJ-850's, same as with the 900's or 2000's, with either Traktor or Serato you can use them in HID mode or whatnot, and so it makes setup a breeze. A lot to believe about on how you want to spend your cash. |
| Alphonso Deitchman 28.05.2013 | The Audio 2 comes with full Traktor Pro now |
| Jerica Salava 28.05.2013 | i would buy a used soundcard (like the NI AUDIO 2 for around $79 and Traktor for $89). get used to the software and learn the keyboard commands. after 30 days, if you love DJing, step it up to the next level. |
| Gaynell Rydberg 28.05.2013 | I don't believe you really need an innofader if you aren't scratching. Technics aren't for everyone. I also can't see why you would ever be forced to work with DVS instead of CDJ. DVS may be cheaper than CDJ, but I still believe CDJ is the way to go. You're going to see more CDJ usage than DVS. |
| Arnulfo Morten 27.05.2013 | If you want to play at a club they provide gear
for you... anyways saw you have $1500 to spend and it looks like your settled on the DDM-4000 that's fine to learn on. just remember industry standard is a DJM mixer or Rane mixer 1. ddm-4000 or a cheap 4 channel mixer and throw an Innofader in it $350 2. pair of Technics 1200 mk2 $800 3. Rane SL2 $400 "Can be used with serato and has core audio drivers as well as asio drivers. and can be adapted to work with traktor with a mod 1 sound card for both software and it's industry standard 4. X1 $160 (optional) total is about $1700 maybe you can find used or somewhere that has this stuff on sale. you can wait to get the x1 later and just use your keyboard. It's nice that you have a decent budget to get serious with your hobby. Most guys start this on a tight budget of like $500 or less and they have to be creative in building their rig but eventually will go with the industry standard whatever it may be for the time. If you can mix on DVS it's easier to just jump on cdj's. It's usually vinyl guys can switch to cdj's but cdj guys have problems working with WAX . Good luck man btw if DJing doesn't work out... you can always resale that gear at the price you bought it for Can't really say that about the cheaper gear. |
| Doreen Schurle 26.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by smittten
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| Len Lukawski 26.05.2013 | I'd save a few quid for some decent tunes too |
| Doreen Schurle 26.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by Jester
In two of the three venues I worked toevening , the DJs had brought their own mixers because they either didn't like the brand of the house mixer (one guy brought a DJM-800 because the venue had a Xone:62), or the general condition of the gear was sub-par. Whatever setup you decide to go with (modular controllers, CDJs, or all-in-ones), make sure you have enough gear of your OWN for a complete setup, just in case the gear in the venue isn't up to scratch. |
| Latoria Kavulich 26.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by makar1
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| Julissa Serrone 26.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by octostout
I believe also years back, having to make a good sized investment in decks and a mixer also almost forced you to learn properly because of the investment one had made. The instant gratification generation wants to spend as little as possible, hit a few buttons and call it a day. Kinda sucks, but there's a huge market of them. |
| Doreen Schurle 26.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by octostout
Buying a cheap controller (especially a second hand one) is a MUCH lower risk to everyone involved. |
| Kathe Stump 27.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
I'm a Traktor performance-heavy DJ. I constantly make fun of CDJ DJs who just transition between tracks... and even I would still prefer a kid spent a grand on CDJs than start using Traktor on whatever midi controller they can afford. Trust me, I started DJing when the very first hercules controllers started coming out, and I got distracted by ean golden's stupid shenanigans, when I should have been learning to DJ. Now I wish I'd just started out with a pairoof CDJs and a mixer until i was ready to do performance-DJing. |
| Olin Easley 27.05.2013 | It really seems to me like you have no idea what all these things do. Do you want to use Traktor or CDJs at clubs? How many decks do you want to use? What genre do you want to mix? Also, you shouldn't do this to become a club DJ quickly. First you need to see if you like it and as you get better, start looking for gigs. It'd be a shame to spend $1500 on a set up and resell it for half of its original price a year later. And don't forget a decent pair of headphones is essential. |
| Alphonso Deitchman 26.05.2013 | Just saying that nothing has changed. People without experience went out and spent tons of money back in the day, just as they do today. |
| Doreen Schurle 26.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by makar1
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| Alphonso Deitchman 26.05.2013 | How much would a pair of Technics have cost brand new a decade ago? |
| Alla Bluemke 26.05.2013 | Why not look for some used gear ? If you are so set on cdjs then go for say cdj 800s, or 1000s? Then find a djm 800, or 700? |
| Doreen Schurle 26.05.2013 | I miss the days where people started practicing their DJing on turntables salvaged from skips or even borrowed (with much begging) from a friend. All these people going out and dropping |
| Terisa Selling 26.05.2013 | Guys really thank you. I have questions; 1-Can I use 4trak instead of mixer? Or mixer is better than controller for learning and go club? 2-Which sound card should I get? 3-İs getting X1 good idea? thanks again |
| Terisa Selling 26.05.2013 | Guys thanks for advices. Can I use 4trak instead of mixer ? Which soundcard should I choose as a soundcard in budget? What about X1? |
| Augustine Mitzen 26.05.2013 | get some decent CDJs and mixer instead of the RMX. do you want to use traktor too? |
| Alphonso Deitchman 26.05.2013 | Mixer, CDJs, and an X1 make the most sense if you plan on doing gigs at clubs. You'll need a sound card too (ideally a timecode one) so that should bring you up to the budget limit. |
| Gaynell Rydberg 26.05.2013 | I'm not sure why you're getting an RMX-1000 AND a DDM4000. The DDM4000 already has a ton of effects (and the Gemini CDJs too). IMO, get the CDJ700s. The main thing about the CDJ is the nice big platter. If you get the CDJ650, you might as well just get an all in one. IMO, I'd pick up some used gear . You say you want to DJ, but I don't believe you really know until you try it out. |
| Johanna Eggerson 25.05.2013 | You're obviously looking for something with a budget of around $1500 right? If I were you, someone with no experience, which I originally was, I would start off using a MIDI controller. Start off with a controller like an S4, VCI-400 or DDJ-SX. The DDJ-SX is the most expensive of the lot, but it is Pioneer and you are paying for the brand-name and sophisticated looks. The S4 and VCI-400 are around $400 cheaper than the DDJ-SX and are probably 90% the same in terms of build quality and functionality. All of these controllers come with the software to use them and in-built soundcards, so all you will need is a laptop (which I am assuming you probably already have) and speakers/monitors which you can buy using the extra money, or if you already have, you can save the extra money for buying better gear in the future i.e. Pioneer CDJ/DJM, Technics Turntables or more MIDI Controllers. |
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