Calvin Harris and Dillon Francis worked there... no way!
| New DIY Project
So here's my new little idea for a controller
Will be using spare parts from Contours and Jockey 3s (button pads, LED rings, knobs etc) and a Teensy 3.0, with either a pair of PCM2706s linked through an internal hub or an I2S --> DAC combination running off two of the Teensy pins.
Basically, the idea is to create a nice compact controller with balanced (XLR) and unbalanced (RCA) outputs and 6.35mm and 3.5mm headphone out. Total size will be roughly 20x50, so basically the size of a 4U 19" rack unit, and about an 4cm thick.
Thoughts, opinions? | Doreen Schurle 04.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by Elvebakk
I like the layout of the controller. The only thing that strikes me is the short channel faders. Have you considered Rotary channel faders? Personally I would preferred that instead of to short linear faders.
Overall it looks very nice!
Now that's not a bad idea at all... Will have to see how much space I've got available when I get around to doing the CAD work; I wouldn't settle for anything less than 60mm faders, although if there isn't room rotaries might be a good option | Random X 02.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Tbh, it's a combination of the two haha. The Zomo's fantastic when I'm doing a basic set somewhere that I KNOW has got a mixer I'm a) comfortable using (DJM-600+ or a clone thereof, rather than an A&H or one of those nasty powered mixers that look more at home in a recording studio than a DJ booth) and is in good condition.
If I'm doing something more intricate, I'll usually wind up taking my Contours though, because the Zomo only has 3 cuepoints on the first layer, and it's difficult to juggle both decks without using the shift-locked page which deactivates the effects buttons, etc. The Contours give me 4 dedicated cuepoint pads easily switchable between 1-4 and 5-8 with a single buttonpress, without affecting the effects section. Plus, they're much nicer targets to hit finger-drumming style, with a much "springier" action on them, similar to a Maschine or MPC. The Zomo's are more comparable to the cue buttons on a DJM-600, firm and clicky, and about the same size.
So basically, I wanted something in between the two. The familiarity and overall FEEL of the Contours, but in a more compact package. Originally I just thought about making some cut-down contours, but figured if I was going to reduce them to an 8"x8" square anyway, I might as well just stick a 2ch mixer section between the two and have it rack-sized. That way, I've got EVERYTHING I need for a gig in a package WAY smaller (and lighter) than my Terminal Mix 4, with the same feel as the Contours
If I do manage to get this thing up and running, it'll probably become my go-to controller for most gigs, although the rest of my gear won't just sit on a shelf gathering dust; there's a time and a place to use ALL of my gear, even my shitty little DJ-Tech CDJ101s
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Nice one! Looks like a solid fun project, good luck! Will try to follow up on this thread every know and then! | Doreen Schurle 02.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by Polygon
sigception
Ahaha exactly | Dannie Dimora 02.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Ah, I believe I know what makar1 was referring to... the guy that I quoted (The Mighty FV) had quoted dripstep in his post, whose sig is a quote from The Mighty FV, which is what he might've meant originally. I didn't notice that the first time around, so just assumed he was talking about my sig haha.
sigception | Doreen Schurle 02.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by tekki
Just curious, has this started because you're really missing these functionalities with your Zomo controller, or was this just a thing that seemed like fun?
Tbh, it's a combination of the two haha. The Zomo's fantastic when I'm doing a basic set somewhere that I KNOW has got a mixer I'm a) comfortable using (DJM-600+ or a clone thereof, rather than an A&H or one of those nasty powered mixers that look more at home in a recording studio than a DJ booth) and is in good condition.
If I'm doing something more intricate, I'll usually wind up taking my Contours though, because the Zomo only has 3 cuepoints on the first layer, and it's difficult to juggle both decks without using the shift-locked page which deactivates the effects buttons, etc. The Contours give me 4 dedicated cuepoint pads easily switchable between 1-4 and 5-8 with a single buttonpress, without affecting the effects section. Plus, they're much nicer targets to hit finger-drumming style, with a much "springier" action on them, similar to a Maschine or MPC. The Zomo's are more comparable to the cue buttons on a DJM-600, firm and clicky, and about the same size.
So basically, I wanted something in between the two. The familiarity and overall FEEL of the Contours, but in a more compact package. Originally I just thought about making some cut-down contours, but figured if I was going to reduce them to an 8"x8" square anyway, I might as well just stick a 2ch mixer section between the two and have it rack-sized. That way, I've got EVERYTHING I need for a gig in a package WAY smaller (and lighter) than my Terminal Mix 4, with the same feel as the Contours
If I do manage to get this thing up and running, it'll probably become my go-to controller for most gigs, although the rest of my gear won't just sit on a shelf gathering dust; there's a time and a place to use ALL of my gear, even my shitty little DJ-Tech CDJ101s
Originally Posted by Polygon
13" Macbook Pro i7/8gb/750gb :: Traktor S4 + F1 + Pro 2 :: Allen & Heath DB4 :: Allen & Heath K2 :: Midi Fighter Classic :: Midi Fighter Pro (BM) :: Midi Fighter 3D :: Pioneer RMX1000 :: DJM800 :: 2 xCDJ1000mk3 :: Beats Pro + Beats Studio
Ah, I believe I know what makar1 was referring to... the guy that I quoted (The Mighty FV) had quoted dripstep in his post, whose sig is a quote from The Mighty FV, which is what he might've meant originally. I didn't notice that the first time around, so just assumed he was talking about my sig haha.
EDIT: Just a quick addendum for anyone who's interested; when I cracked open my Contour CE and IE last evening
to check out the internals, I had a look at the audio interface board of the IE. It's absolutely crazy. Doesn't use a single, dedicated USB DAC chip or even an array of them, it uses a pair of microprocessors, one by ATMEGA and I can't remember the brand of the other one, possibly a TI chip, which drive an array of op amps, resistor ladders, and about a dozen other smaller 6-pin ICs the purpose of which I can't for the life of me remember now. But it's insane. It even uses a separate USB interface IC just purely for connectivity, rather than using an Arduino-style unit with on-die support.
Don't get me wrong, the audio interface isn't cobbled together out of a load of disparate parts with the goal of doing it as cheaply as possible; everything's laid out perfectly and logically, with each channel grouped separately and individually grounded. It's just a ridiculously complex way of doing things, which I won't be replicating - mostly because we'd be on holographic interfaces by the time I finished haha.
Still, it explains why the latency from the Contour's audio interface is so damn good (<5ms). | Dannie Dimora 02.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by makar1
You may want to read more carefully...
13" Macbook Pro i7/8gb/750gb :: Traktor S4 + F1 + Pro 2 :: Allen & Heath DB4 :: Allen & Heath K2 :: Midi Fighter Classic :: Midi Fighter Pro (BM) :: Midi Fighter 3D :: Pioneer RMX1000 :: DJM800 :: 2 xCDJ1000mk3 :: Beats Pro + Beats Studio | Dannie Dimora 02.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Tbh, that actually sounds like quite a badass little project haha :P If you'd mounted the screen FLAT on the top, would've been perfect for DJing! A battery-less non-touchscreen tablet before (affordable) tablets were even on the market :P
I need to remember to account for the thicknesses of EVERYTHING when doing dimensions, otherwise the whole thing's going to end up in tears haha :P
Heh i didn't have money for a touchscreen at the time, so i just figured i'd do a production rig, i actually managed to put in quite some stuff, a korg nanopad, a 25key+faders+knobs modded usb keyboard, and a laptop typing keyboard, all along with a custom made 2.1 setup inside, 2way monitors running on the side of the screen et all. Looked fugly tho xD | Alphonso Deitchman 02.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Never thought I'd hear someone who owns a pair of CDJs saying that haha
You may want to read more carefully... | Doreen Schurle 01.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by The Mighty FV
+1, I really like the look of it - I only mix with faders and filter knobs so this works really nicely if OP isn't a scratcher.
Cheers mate That was my logic behind it; I'm more or less happy with my Contours, but sometimes I have the need for something a little more compact than 2x Contours + a DJM, and yet something MORE than the Zomo. Basically, Contours + Mixer without jogwheels, the (somewhat superfluous) effects faders [I use the encoders], or a crossfader haha.
Originally Posted by The Mighty FV
Oh, and nice sig man haha
Never thought I'd hear someone who owns a pair of CDJs saying that haha But judging from the rest of your sig you're also a MIDI lover
Originally Posted by Pavin
What are you looking for this to be size wise?? Kind of looks like that Zomo controller
19 inches x 8 inches, or roughly 50cm x 20cm if you're a metric guy Compared to a twitch, it'll be significantly wider, but less tall, and a bit thinner.
In fact, it'll probably wind up being almost EXACTLY the same size as one of these combinations:
Although I may possibly end up stretching it vertically to 5U instead of 4U to fit the faders in. And obviously, it'll be less than 2 inches thick (aiming for 40mm if possible, same as the Contours).
Originally Posted by Polygon
mhm agreed, milling can get quite expensive..
I hope you get it right the first time, one of my first diy projects, a microitx mobo and a 19" lcd integrated into a custom made box with a lid, kind of a ginormous, underpowered, 8.5kg laptop, had to be redone 7 or 8 times, before i finally figured out how the hell metal works :P
Tbh, that actually sounds like quite a badass little project haha :P If you'd mounted the screen FLAT on the top, would've been perfect for DJing! A battery-less non-touchscreen tablet before (affordable) tablets were even on the market :P
I need to remember to account for the thicknesses of EVERYTHING when doing dimensions, otherwise the whole thing's going to end up in tears haha :P | Dannie Dimora 01.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Sheet aluminium, at least 2mm thick, with 4cm squares cut out of the corners then bent 90 degrees upwards, like a shoebox lid basically, just without actual "corners"; it's a similar construction to some of Reloops other hardware (like the TM4) Actually, scratch that... it's not the TM4 which has sidewall construction like that... Christ knows what I'm believeing of :-\. That's the main "bottom" part of the chassis; at the top of the vertical pieces there'll be an additional 6 little "tabs" which are bent 90 degrees inwards which provide securing points for the faceplate, which the innards will all be attached to with countersunk M6 screws.
When I get home toevening
I'll knock up some concepts in SketchUp for your viewing pleasure
The overall plan is to make it in such a way where CUSTOM fabrication is kept to a minimum. Ie, I don't mind having panels laser-cut from CAD diagrams, but it'd be nice to avoid having to get anything actually milled or CNC'd. If it's just laser cutting, there's a much higher chance I can bribe someone at the local Uni to do it for me for cost if I give them the CAD files and material :P
mhm agreed, milling can get quite expensive..
I hope you get it right the first time, one of my first diy projects, a microitx mobo and a 19" lcd integrated into a custom made box with a lid, kind of a ginormous, underpowered, 8.5kg laptop, had to be redone 7 or 8 times, before i finally figured out how the hell metal works :P | Joesph Kasian 01.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by dripstep
I really like that! I only use a crossfader for scratching, when mixing its all volume faders, so I really like that layout. The volume faders are a little short for my liking, but that seems to be standard for controllers. Doesn't look crowded either, I believe this is a nice concept.
+1, I really like the look of it - I only mix with faders and filter knobs so this works really nicely if OP isn't a scratcher.
Oh, and nice sig man haha | Doreen Schurle 01.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by Polygon
nice concept! Good luck making it road-proof tho, how were you believeing of building the case?
Sheet aluminium, at least 2mm thick, with 4cm squares cut out of the corners then bent 90 degrees upwards, like a shoebox lid basically, just without actual "corners"; it's a similar construction to some of Reloops other hardware (like the TM4) Actually, scratch that... it's not the TM4 which has sidewall construction like that... Christ knows what I'm believeing of :-\. That's the main "bottom" part of the chassis; at the top of the vertical pieces there'll be an additional 6 little "tabs" which are bent 90 degrees inwards which provide securing points for the faceplate, which the innards will all be attached to with countersunk M6 screws.
When I get home toevening
I'll knock up some concepts in SketchUp for your viewing pleasure
The overall plan is to make it in such a way where CUSTOM fabrication is kept to a minimum. Ie, I don't mind having panels laser-cut from CAD diagrams, but it'd be nice to avoid having to get anything actually milled or CNC'd. If it's just laser cutting, there's a much higher chance I can bribe someone at the local Uni to do it for me for cost if I give them the CAD files and material :P | Doreen Schurle 04.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by Elvebakk
I like the layout of the controller. The only thing that strikes me is the short channel faders. Have you considered Rotary channel faders? Personally I would preferred that instead of to short linear faders.
Overall it looks very nice!
Now that's not a bad idea at all... Will have to see how much space I've got available when I get around to doing the CAD work; I wouldn't settle for anything less than 60mm faders, although if there isn't room rotaries might be a good option | Justine Schipp 03.06.2013 | I like the layout of the controller. The only thing that strikes me is the short channel faders. Have you considered Rotary channel faders? Personally I would preferred that instead of to short linear faders.
Overall it looks very nice! | Random X 02.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Tbh, it's a combination of the two haha. The Zomo's fantastic when I'm doing a basic set somewhere that I KNOW has got a mixer I'm a) comfortable using (DJM-600+ or a clone thereof, rather than an A&H or one of those nasty powered mixers that look more at home in a recording studio than a DJ booth) and is in good condition.
If I'm doing something more intricate, I'll usually wind up taking my Contours though, because the Zomo only has 3 cuepoints on the first layer, and it's difficult to juggle both decks without using the shift-locked page which deactivates the effects buttons, etc. The Contours give me 4 dedicated cuepoint pads easily switchable between 1-4 and 5-8 with a single buttonpress, without affecting the effects section. Plus, they're much nicer targets to hit finger-drumming style, with a much "springier" action on them, similar to a Maschine or MPC. The Zomo's are more comparable to the cue buttons on a DJM-600, firm and clicky, and about the same size.
So basically, I wanted something in between the two. The familiarity and overall FEEL of the Contours, but in a more compact package. Originally I just thought about making some cut-down contours, but figured if I was going to reduce them to an 8"x8" square anyway, I might as well just stick a 2ch mixer section between the two and have it rack-sized. That way, I've got EVERYTHING I need for a gig in a package WAY smaller (and lighter) than my Terminal Mix 4, with the same feel as the Contours
If I do manage to get this thing up and running, it'll probably become my go-to controller for most gigs, although the rest of my gear won't just sit on a shelf gathering dust; there's a time and a place to use ALL of my gear, even my shitty little DJ-Tech CDJ101s
[..]
Nice one! Looks like a solid fun project, good luck! Will try to follow up on this thread every know and then! | Doreen Schurle 02.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by Polygon
sigception
Ahaha exactly | Dannie Dimora 02.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Ah, I believe I know what makar1 was referring to... the guy that I quoted (The Mighty FV) had quoted dripstep in his post, whose sig is a quote from The Mighty FV, which is what he might've meant originally. I didn't notice that the first time around, so just assumed he was talking about my sig haha.
sigception | Doreen Schurle 02.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by tekki
Just curious, has this started because you're really missing these functionalities with your Zomo controller, or was this just a thing that seemed like fun?
Tbh, it's a combination of the two haha. The Zomo's fantastic when I'm doing a basic set somewhere that I KNOW has got a mixer I'm a) comfortable using (DJM-600+ or a clone thereof, rather than an A&H or one of those nasty powered mixers that look more at home in a recording studio than a DJ booth) and is in good condition.
If I'm doing something more intricate, I'll usually wind up taking my Contours though, because the Zomo only has 3 cuepoints on the first layer, and it's difficult to juggle both decks without using the shift-locked page which deactivates the effects buttons, etc. The Contours give me 4 dedicated cuepoint pads easily switchable between 1-4 and 5-8 with a single buttonpress, without affecting the effects section. Plus, they're much nicer targets to hit finger-drumming style, with a much "springier" action on them, similar to a Maschine or MPC. The Zomo's are more comparable to the cue buttons on a DJM-600, firm and clicky, and about the same size.
So basically, I wanted something in between the two. The familiarity and overall FEEL of the Contours, but in a more compact package. Originally I just thought about making some cut-down contours, but figured if I was going to reduce them to an 8"x8" square anyway, I might as well just stick a 2ch mixer section between the two and have it rack-sized. That way, I've got EVERYTHING I need for a gig in a package WAY smaller (and lighter) than my Terminal Mix 4, with the same feel as the Contours
If I do manage to get this thing up and running, it'll probably become my go-to controller for most gigs, although the rest of my gear won't just sit on a shelf gathering dust; there's a time and a place to use ALL of my gear, even my shitty little DJ-Tech CDJ101s
Originally Posted by Polygon
13" Macbook Pro i7/8gb/750gb :: Traktor S4 + F1 + Pro 2 :: Allen & Heath DB4 :: Allen & Heath K2 :: Midi Fighter Classic :: Midi Fighter Pro (BM) :: Midi Fighter 3D :: Pioneer RMX1000 :: DJM800 :: 2 xCDJ1000mk3 :: Beats Pro + Beats Studio
Ah, I believe I know what makar1 was referring to... the guy that I quoted (The Mighty FV) had quoted dripstep in his post, whose sig is a quote from The Mighty FV, which is what he might've meant originally. I didn't notice that the first time around, so just assumed he was talking about my sig haha.
EDIT: Just a quick addendum for anyone who's interested; when I cracked open my Contour CE and IE last evening
to check out the internals, I had a look at the audio interface board of the IE. It's absolutely crazy. Doesn't use a single, dedicated USB DAC chip or even an array of them, it uses a pair of microprocessors, one by ATMEGA and I can't remember the brand of the other one, possibly a TI chip, which drive an array of op amps, resistor ladders, and about a dozen other smaller 6-pin ICs the purpose of which I can't for the life of me remember now. But it's insane. It even uses a separate USB interface IC just purely for connectivity, rather than using an Arduino-style unit with on-die support.
Don't get me wrong, the audio interface isn't cobbled together out of a load of disparate parts with the goal of doing it as cheaply as possible; everything's laid out perfectly and logically, with each channel grouped separately and individually grounded. It's just a ridiculously complex way of doing things, which I won't be replicating - mostly because we'd be on holographic interfaces by the time I finished haha.
Still, it explains why the latency from the Contour's audio interface is so damn good (<5ms). | Dannie Dimora 02.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by makar1
You may want to read more carefully...
13" Macbook Pro i7/8gb/750gb :: Traktor S4 + F1 + Pro 2 :: Allen & Heath DB4 :: Allen & Heath K2 :: Midi Fighter Classic :: Midi Fighter Pro (BM) :: Midi Fighter 3D :: Pioneer RMX1000 :: DJM800 :: 2 xCDJ1000mk3 :: Beats Pro + Beats Studio | Dannie Dimora 02.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Tbh, that actually sounds like quite a badass little project haha :P If you'd mounted the screen FLAT on the top, would've been perfect for DJing! A battery-less non-touchscreen tablet before (affordable) tablets were even on the market :P
I need to remember to account for the thicknesses of EVERYTHING when doing dimensions, otherwise the whole thing's going to end up in tears haha :P
Heh i didn't have money for a touchscreen at the time, so i just figured i'd do a production rig, i actually managed to put in quite some stuff, a korg nanopad, a 25key+faders+knobs modded usb keyboard, and a laptop typing keyboard, all along with a custom made 2.1 setup inside, 2way monitors running on the side of the screen et all. Looked fugly tho xD | Alphonso Deitchman 02.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Never thought I'd hear someone who owns a pair of CDJs saying that haha
You may want to read more carefully... | Random X 02.06.2013 | Just curious, has this started because you're really missing these functionalities with your Zomo controller, or was this just a thing that seemed like fun?
| Doreen Schurle 01.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by The Mighty FV
+1, I really like the look of it - I only mix with faders and filter knobs so this works really nicely if OP isn't a scratcher.
Cheers mate That was my logic behind it; I'm more or less happy with my Contours, but sometimes I have the need for something a little more compact than 2x Contours + a DJM, and yet something MORE than the Zomo. Basically, Contours + Mixer without jogwheels, the (somewhat superfluous) effects faders [I use the encoders], or a crossfader haha.
Originally Posted by The Mighty FV
Oh, and nice sig man haha
Never thought I'd hear someone who owns a pair of CDJs saying that haha But judging from the rest of your sig you're also a MIDI lover
Originally Posted by Pavin
What are you looking for this to be size wise?? Kind of looks like that Zomo controller
19 inches x 8 inches, or roughly 50cm x 20cm if you're a metric guy Compared to a twitch, it'll be significantly wider, but less tall, and a bit thinner.
In fact, it'll probably wind up being almost EXACTLY the same size as one of these combinations:
Although I may possibly end up stretching it vertically to 5U instead of 4U to fit the faders in. And obviously, it'll be less than 2 inches thick (aiming for 40mm if possible, same as the Contours).
Originally Posted by Polygon
mhm agreed, milling can get quite expensive..
I hope you get it right the first time, one of my first diy projects, a microitx mobo and a 19" lcd integrated into a custom made box with a lid, kind of a ginormous, underpowered, 8.5kg laptop, had to be redone 7 or 8 times, before i finally figured out how the hell metal works :P
Tbh, that actually sounds like quite a badass little project haha :P If you'd mounted the screen FLAT on the top, would've been perfect for DJing! A battery-less non-touchscreen tablet before (affordable) tablets were even on the market :P
I need to remember to account for the thicknesses of EVERYTHING when doing dimensions, otherwise the whole thing's going to end up in tears haha :P | Dannie Dimora 01.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Sheet aluminium, at least 2mm thick, with 4cm squares cut out of the corners then bent 90 degrees upwards, like a shoebox lid basically, just without actual "corners"; it's a similar construction to some of Reloops other hardware (like the TM4) Actually, scratch that... it's not the TM4 which has sidewall construction like that... Christ knows what I'm believeing of :-\. That's the main "bottom" part of the chassis; at the top of the vertical pieces there'll be an additional 6 little "tabs" which are bent 90 degrees inwards which provide securing points for the faceplate, which the innards will all be attached to with countersunk M6 screws.
When I get home toevening
I'll knock up some concepts in SketchUp for your viewing pleasure
The overall plan is to make it in such a way where CUSTOM fabrication is kept to a minimum. Ie, I don't mind having panels laser-cut from CAD diagrams, but it'd be nice to avoid having to get anything actually milled or CNC'd. If it's just laser cutting, there's a much higher chance I can bribe someone at the local Uni to do it for me for cost if I give them the CAD files and material :P
mhm agreed, milling can get quite expensive..
I hope you get it right the first time, one of my first diy projects, a microitx mobo and a 19" lcd integrated into a custom made box with a lid, kind of a ginormous, underpowered, 8.5kg laptop, had to be redone 7 or 8 times, before i finally figured out how the hell metal works :P | Samuel Stamaria 01.06.2013 | What are you looking for this to be size wise?? Kind of looks like that Zomo controller | Joesph Kasian 01.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by dripstep
I really like that! I only use a crossfader for scratching, when mixing its all volume faders, so I really like that layout. The volume faders are a little short for my liking, but that seems to be standard for controllers. Doesn't look crowded either, I believe this is a nice concept.
+1, I really like the look of it - I only mix with faders and filter knobs so this works really nicely if OP isn't a scratcher.
Oh, and nice sig man haha | Doreen Schurle 01.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by Polygon
nice concept! Good luck making it road-proof tho, how were you believeing of building the case?
Sheet aluminium, at least 2mm thick, with 4cm squares cut out of the corners then bent 90 degrees upwards, like a shoebox lid basically, just without actual "corners"; it's a similar construction to some of Reloops other hardware (like the TM4) Actually, scratch that... it's not the TM4 which has sidewall construction like that... Christ knows what I'm believeing of :-\. That's the main "bottom" part of the chassis; at the top of the vertical pieces there'll be an additional 6 little "tabs" which are bent 90 degrees inwards which provide securing points for the faceplate, which the innards will all be attached to with countersunk M6 screws.
When I get home toevening
I'll knock up some concepts in SketchUp for your viewing pleasure
The overall plan is to make it in such a way where CUSTOM fabrication is kept to a minimum. Ie, I don't mind having panels laser-cut from CAD diagrams, but it'd be nice to avoid having to get anything actually milled or CNC'd. If it's just laser cutting, there's a much higher chance I can bribe someone at the local Uni to do it for me for cost if I give them the CAD files and material :P | Dannie Dimora 01.06.2013 | nice concept! Good luck making it road-proof tho, how were you believeing of building the case? | Doreen Schurle 01.06.2013 | Yep, two "normal" knobs on the right, next to two endless encoders on the left. One's for filter, the other is for "pan" on the Contours although I NEVER use that, so will probably re-purpose them for super FX.
As for the parts, I don't plan on buying up Contours as donors; instead, I'm going to order the parts directly from Reloop The regional distributors have big stockpiles of spare parts so getting hold of them shouldn't be too difficult. The tricky part will be the mountings, as the Contours are a metal faceplate over an ABS frame which is mounted inside a metal chassis. The PCB attaches to the back of the ABS frame, and EVERYTHING is on that PCB - even things like the LED rings.
So what I'll do is have a custom PCB made up, space it off the faceplate with risers, and then secure the faceplate directly to the metal chassis (forgoing the ABS part of the unit), and use a secondary plate cut to fit the button pads layered between the PCB and the faceplate.
This is the microcontroller I'll be using, it's an Arduino-style controller which will then be hooked up to the PCB to interpret the analog/digital signals from the encoders and pots, most likely through a MOUNTAIN of multiplexers. The tricky part is going to be working out how to keep it all nicely organized with the multiplexers, as that'll be key to keeping the code as simple as possible.
WORST case scenario, I'll use 3 Teensys; one for each section of the controller. | Yong Aptekar 02.06.2013 | Oh it is too. Small phone screen, missed the fine print. | Verlene Geevarghese 02.06.2013 | It's there on the first layer of the second bank of pots. 3rd one over | Yong Aptekar 02.06.2013 | I just noticed, no filter knobs. Don't need them, or an oversight? | Kellie Myrum 02.06.2013 | Pretty cool! Hope to see some progress on this soon.
BTW could be wrong sub community
to post your project. | Verlene Geevarghese 01.06.2013 | What about controls for scrubbing/seeking? Layered under CUE/CUP perhaps?
Edit: I'm retarded. I see it now. | Yong Aptekar 01.06.2013 | The only thing practical about a diy controller is being able to lay it out and build it however you want to.
For sure going to follow this thread. MDC, do you have those controllers to bastardize yet, or do you still have to get them? | Katie Ahmady 01.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by dripstep
Makar, that's kinda the point of diy controllers. They aren't cheaper, take a lot of work and time. Sure, you could buy a twitch, but why not make a custom controller if you're so inclined?
+1 to this. I like seeing people's DIY projects even if they aren't really "practical" per se. | Yong Aptekar 01.06.2013 | Makar, that's kinda the point of diy controllers. They aren't cheaper, take a lot of work and time. Sure, you could buy a twitch, but why not make a custom controller if you're so inclined? Before you joined here, this community
was filled with diy projects. Its nice to see a resurgence of new controllers. | Alphonso Deitchman 01.06.2013 | Seems like a lot of effort for a homemade Twitch clone. | Doreen Schurle 01.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by dripstep
I really like that! I only use a crossfader for scratching, when mixing its all volume faders, so I really like that layout. The volume faders are a little short for my liking, but that seems to be standard for controllers. Doesn't look crowded either, I believe this is a nice concept.
Cheers mate I'm got a similar feeling about the line faders, so may have to re-jigger things when I do the CAD designs for the faceplate etc. I may drop the gain controls in order to lengthen the faders a bit. Ideally I'd like to have 60mm faders as, like you, for mixing I ONLY use the line faders, no crossfader whatsoever.
All of the faders/encoders will be top quality 12/14-bit jobbies, the encoders all with a depress action as well for quick resets/toggles.
I may add a phase meter strip (with little square pitchbend buttons, like the ones either side of the cuepoint pads) either above/below each section as well, which may give me the additional room I need for the faders. | Yong Aptekar 01.06.2013 | I really like that! I only use a crossfader for scratching, when mixing its all volume faders, so I really like that layout. The volume faders are a little short for my liking, but that seems to be standard for controllers. Doesn't look crowded either, I believe this is a nice concept. |
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