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New Set Up HELP DJM800 + 2- Kontrol x1s + What interface 4 channel mixing
Posted on: 05.06.2013 by Lyn Vernali
Hey guys, I'm just in the process of changing my set up over to 2 X1s and my DJM800, the question I have is, can I get any interface (because I would like one that will be good for producing, as I am just starting to scratch the surface there) or do I have to get a traktor audio 8 or 10 if I would like my 2 Kontrol x1s to be run into the four channels on my mixer. The interfaces that have the most appeal to me and my budget are the M-Audio Profire 610, Akai EiE Pro and the Apogee Duet. With the Akai and M-audio would it be possible to buy 1/4" conversion cables to RCA, so that I could have the outputs from the interface running into the DJMs 4 RCA channels? If you guys can help me out here or have any suggestions feel free to put your input in.

Thanks!
Lyn Vernali
10.06.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
There's a few options for a single jogwheel controller; there's the Reloop Contour (a few people on the community are selling theirs), which also has a 10-output soundcard built into it (only the Interface Edition, the cheaper Controller Edition lacks the soundcard), or the Xone:1d, although the jogwheel is smaller and not as nice feeling, or the DJ Tech Kontrol One, or even the DJ Tech CDJ-101. The CDJ-101 is probably the cheapest option; Maplin in the UK used to sell them for
Doreen Schurle
05.06.2013
Originally Posted by Dangletron
Saaaaweeet you've pretty well sold me on the MC1000 then and it will save me a bunch of money so I guess the last question I would have is what would I add to my set up if I want to add a jog wheel for beat matching? Is there anything really cheap and basics that's pretty well just a jog wheel since I have all other controls on the Zomo, and did you map it yourself or do you use the mapping it came with?
There's a few options for a single jogwheel controller; there's the Reloop Contour (a few people on the community are selling theirs), which also has a 10-output soundcard built into it (only the Interface Edition, the cheaper Controller Edition lacks the soundcard), or the Xone:1d, although the jogwheel is smaller and not as nice feeling, or the DJ Tech Kontrol One, or even the DJ Tech CDJ-101. The CDJ-101 is probably the cheapest option; Maplin in the UK used to sell them for
Lyn Vernali
05.06.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Considering your budget is well over
Lyn Vernali
10.06.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
There's a few options for a single jogwheel controller; there's the Reloop Contour (a few people on the community are selling theirs), which also has a 10-output soundcard built into it (only the Interface Edition, the cheaper Controller Edition lacks the soundcard), or the Xone:1d, although the jogwheel is smaller and not as nice feeling, or the DJ Tech Kontrol One, or even the DJ Tech CDJ-101. The CDJ-101 is probably the cheapest option; Maplin in the UK used to sell them for
Doreen Schurle
05.06.2013
Originally Posted by Dangletron
Saaaaweeet you've pretty well sold me on the MC1000 then and it will save me a bunch of money so I guess the last question I would have is what would I add to my set up if I want to add a jog wheel for beat matching? Is there anything really cheap and basics that's pretty well just a jog wheel since I have all other controls on the Zomo, and did you map it yourself or do you use the mapping it came with?
There's a few options for a single jogwheel controller; there's the Reloop Contour (a few people on the community are selling theirs), which also has a 10-output soundcard built into it (only the Interface Edition, the cheaper Controller Edition lacks the soundcard), or the Xone:1d, although the jogwheel is smaller and not as nice feeling, or the DJ Tech Kontrol One, or even the DJ Tech CDJ-101. The CDJ-101 is probably the cheapest option; Maplin in the UK used to sell them for
Lyn Vernali
05.06.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Yep, with my mapping there's a separate beatjump encoder next to the loop one (labelled FX Select); press it down and twist and it changes the beatjump size, then turning it normally skips through the track by that amount
Saaaaweeet you've pretty well sold me on the MC1000 then and it will save me a bunch of money so I guess the last question I would have is what would I add to my set up if I want to add a jog wheel for beat matching? Is there anything really cheap and basics that's pretty well just a jog wheel since I have all other controls on the Zomo, and did you map it yourself or do you use the mapping it came with?
Doreen Schurle
05.06.2013
Originally Posted by Dangletron
About the Zomo it does look extremely appealing and it appears that I wouldn't need the x1s anymore (and I would really only use three decks not four) but one feature I like on the x1s is how you can browse through your tracks 32,16,8 or how ever many you choose with the browsing encoder. I can see that you can adjust the loop size with the zomo but are you able to browse through your track by how ever many bars you choose?

Thanks
Yep, with my mapping there's a separate beatjump encoder next to the loop one (labelled FX Select); press it down and twist and it changes the beatjump size, then turning it normally skips through the track by that amount
Lyn Vernali
05.06.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Considering your budget is well over
Doreen Schurle
05.06.2013
Originally Posted by Dangletron
Are you saying to get the Zumo MC-1000 instead of the x1's or with the x1's too? They seem to pretty well similar midi controllers apart form the built in soundcard.
It's up to you mate You could get a single X1 to use for decks C/D and use the Zomo for A/B, or have the Zomo mapped for something completely different; but you can use the Zomo to output the audio for all 4 decks whatever configuration you choose

Originally Posted by donstone
the zomo would take the place of 2 X1s and the audio interface. All for mad cheap.
Or this, yeah
Oretha Afful
05.06.2013
Originally Posted by Dangletron
Are you saying to get the Zumo MC-1000 instead of the x1's or with the x1's too? They seem to pretty well similar midi controllers apart form the built in soundcard.
the zomo would take the place of 2 X1s and the audio interface. All for mad cheap.
Grace Gatica
11.06.2013
I was in the same situation as you yesterday, however i found someone who would trade their x1 with $10 for my f1. I feel as though the X1 is better than the zomo apart from the soundcard, but thats just me. Also buying an Audio 8 will also benefit me with production as well so didnt really lose anything as i could just sell my X1s if i wanted to.
Doreen Schurle
10.06.2013
Congratulations on your new purchases!

You can find my mapping for the Zomo MC-1000 here: http://community .djranking s.com/showthread.php?t=69459

Just updated it a few minutes ago to fix a bug with preselected FX
Yukiko Spruell
11.06.2013
MCDs mappings are already posted up on here for download. They should come up if you search for "zomo"
Lyn Vernali
10.06.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
There's a few options for a single jogwheel controller; there's the Reloop Contour (a few people on the community are selling theirs), which also has a 10-output soundcard built into it (only the Interface Edition, the cheaper Controller Edition lacks the soundcard), or the Xone:1d, although the jogwheel is smaller and not as nice feeling, or the DJ Tech Kontrol One, or even the DJ Tech CDJ-101. The CDJ-101 is probably the cheapest option; Maplin in the UK used to sell them for
Doreen Schurle
05.06.2013
Originally Posted by Dangletron
Saaaaweeet you've pretty well sold me on the MC1000 then and it will save me a bunch of money so I guess the last question I would have is what would I add to my set up if I want to add a jog wheel for beat matching? Is there anything really cheap and basics that's pretty well just a jog wheel since I have all other controls on the Zomo, and did you map it yourself or do you use the mapping it came with?
There's a few options for a single jogwheel controller; there's the Reloop Contour (a few people on the community are selling theirs), which also has a 10-output soundcard built into it (only the Interface Edition, the cheaper Controller Edition lacks the soundcard), or the Xone:1d, although the jogwheel is smaller and not as nice feeling, or the DJ Tech Kontrol One, or even the DJ Tech CDJ-101. The CDJ-101 is probably the cheapest option; Maplin in the UK used to sell them for
Lyn Vernali
05.06.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Yep, with my mapping there's a separate beatjump encoder next to the loop one (labelled FX Select); press it down and twist and it changes the beatjump size, then turning it normally skips through the track by that amount
Saaaaweeet you've pretty well sold me on the MC1000 then and it will save me a bunch of money so I guess the last question I would have is what would I add to my set up if I want to add a jog wheel for beat matching? Is there anything really cheap and basics that's pretty well just a jog wheel since I have all other controls on the Zomo, and did you map it yourself or do you use the mapping it came with?
Doreen Schurle
05.06.2013
Originally Posted by Dangletron
About the Zomo it does look extremely appealing and it appears that I wouldn't need the x1s anymore (and I would really only use three decks not four) but one feature I like on the x1s is how you can browse through your tracks 32,16,8 or how ever many you choose with the browsing encoder. I can see that you can adjust the loop size with the zomo but are you able to browse through your track by how ever many bars you choose?

Thanks
Yep, with my mapping there's a separate beatjump encoder next to the loop one (labelled FX Select); press it down and twist and it changes the beatjump size, then turning it normally skips through the track by that amount
Lyn Vernali
05.06.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Considering your budget is well over
Albertina Fay
05.06.2013
I'm selling an Audio 8 on the Buy/Sell community s if you need one. Looking to sell quick.
Alphonso Deitchman
05.06.2013
If your X1s come/came with accessory vouchers, you can get the NI Kontrol Stand for half price which raises the controller to perfect mixer height and is very sturdy. It also doubles as a protective case for transport.
Hipolito Scionti
05.06.2013
for 3 stereo outs and a good procuction AI i'd go with this. Personally never use more than two decks let alone three... though you could route two remix decks to the 3rd stereo out

http://www.native-instruments.com/en...plete-audio-6/

Also X1s are nice, and fit nicely next to a DJM... I wouldn't want to lean over with that zomo or shove it up... controller next to mixer feels ergonomically right to me
Doreen Schurle
05.06.2013
Originally Posted by Dangletron
Are you saying to get the Zumo MC-1000 instead of the x1's or with the x1's too? They seem to pretty well similar midi controllers apart form the built in soundcard.
It's up to you mate You could get a single X1 to use for decks C/D and use the Zomo for A/B, or have the Zomo mapped for something completely different; but you can use the Zomo to output the audio for all 4 decks whatever configuration you choose

Originally Posted by donstone
the zomo would take the place of 2 X1s and the audio interface. All for mad cheap.
Or this, yeah
Oretha Afful
05.06.2013
Originally Posted by Dangletron
Are you saying to get the Zumo MC-1000 instead of the x1's or with the x1's too? They seem to pretty well similar midi controllers apart form the built in soundcard.
the zomo would take the place of 2 X1s and the audio interface. All for mad cheap.
Katelyn Hoctor
05.06.2013
Originally Posted by Dangletron
Yes its a 2011 macbook pro so I believe it's got an 800 type firewire port
it does indeed you will find you will need to buy a firewire cable seperately from the profires supplied one as the 2 that came when i got miy profire were firewire mini and a firewire 400 6 pin style you need an 9 pin to 6 pin firewire lead
Lyn Vernali
05.06.2013
Are you saying to get the Zumo MC-1000 instead of the x1's or with the x1's too? They seem to pretty well similar midi controllers apart form the built in soundcard.
Lyn Vernali
05.06.2013
Originally Posted by makar1
Yes, you should be able to do all that with the M-Audio 610. Does your computer have a firewire port?
Yes its a 2011 macbook pro so I believe it's got an 800 type firewire port
Alphonso Deitchman
05.06.2013
Originally Posted by Dangletron
So from what I've seen so far, the M-audio would be the best option because It has Midi In (for my DJM800) and I would be able to connect 2 x1s to my comp and have the audio feed out to the 4 channels of my Mixer. Correct?
Yes, you should be able to do all that with the M-Audio 610. Does your computer have a firewire port?
Doreen Schurle
05.06.2013
Originally Posted by Dangletron
Hey guys, I'm just in the process of changing my set up over to 2 X1s and my DJM800, the question I have is, can I get any interface (because I would like one that will be good for producing, as I am just starting to scratch the surface there) or do I have to get a traktor audio 8 or 10 if I would like my 2 Kontrol x1s to be run into the four channels on my mixer. The interfaces that have the most appeal to me and my budget are the M-Audio Profire 610, Akai EiE Pro and the Apogee Duet. With the Akai and M-audio would it be possible to buy 1/4" conversion cables to RCA, so that I could have the outputs from the interface running into the DJMs 4 RCA channels? If you guys can help me out here or have any suggestions feel free to put your input in.

Thanks!
Considering your budget is well over
Lyn Vernali
05.06.2013
So from what I've seen so far, the M-audio would be the best option because It has Midi In (for my DJM800) and I would be able to connect 2 x1s to my comp and have the audio feed out to the 4 channels of my Mixer. Correct?
Alphonso Deitchman
05.06.2013
Audio 8s are fairly cheap now; there's also the ESI Gigaport. Out of the interfaces you linked, only the M-Audio 610 has enough outputs for 4 Traktor decks.

You could also aggregate 2 sound cards together to get the required number of outputs as this can be done very easily on Macs.
Lyn Vernali
06.06.2013
Thanks for your input! I'll check it out, and does your interface work well with Macs? And do you know will the 1/4" to RCA cables work on any interface properly sent to the mixer?
Oretha Afful
06.06.2013
Might be a little out of your budget but I used to use a Motu Ultralite MK3. Thing is a tank and has amazing sound quality.
Still use it in my studio and honestly will probably never have to buy another audio interface again.

You just use 1/4" to rca cables for the conversion. yes.

the Akai only has 4 outputs, you need 4 sets of outputs technically.

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