This Is Why Music Is Pirated
This Is Why Music Is Pirated Posted on: 10.06.2013 by Jerica Salava Heard this track:Want to put it in my Shopping Cart. CLICK the beatport link (For USA ONLY): http://www.beatport.com/release/paper-aeroplane/1083183 Now what am I left to do? | |
Joesph Kasian 26.07.2013 |
Originally Posted by loverocket
The guy who created iTunes - a place that the only way for Apple to make profit is to make and sell devices it works on - iTune prices are so low because Apple knows to use it properly you have to buy their magical products. That is where they make their money. Look up the stats of how many iTunes sales are made without an Apple device - they are minimal, Apple made iTunes, then said 'to use this amazing musical portal and our low prices, you must buy our $700 device'. As for 'performing a obstacle course' the restrictions are for a reason - a track is licensed from a label by other labels in different countries. Perhaps they have a big video and single release coming up of said track that they just licensed for $500,000. Why would they want to have it available in that country already for $1.50? It makes no sense. The video and single drops and everyone in that country then goes 'ah, I copped that last year, no thanks' - the single flops, the artist doesn't get his big advance anymore in that territory. Music is business, every aspect of it, from making music through to cut of the bar and the price of drinks in the venues we go, the faster you get used to that the quicker you'll advance up the ladder. |
Evalyn Voges 26.07.2013 |
Originally Posted by shr3dder
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Ara Tima 25.07.2013 |
Originally Posted by firebr4nd
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Jerica Salava 16.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by Karlos Santos
It's a mash-up with Rober Gaez - Whore Bath. here is the show (track 10): https://soundcloud.com/davidpenn/dav...ntial-spring13 Here is a dude that recreated it. Nice job: https://soundcloud.com/nico-zevi/rob...ez-whore-paper |
Lang Abriel 11.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by R01
This is just another reasons more and more tunes are being given away for free... |
Golden Faubert 26.07.2013 | not really helpful but i love that tune! |
Meridith Betsinger 26.07.2013 | Key issue isn't the restriction it's the lack of "information". I'll take nba live streaming service as an example (it's a subscription based service that lets you watch games online). Whenever they have matches in their calendar you feel all excited TONIGHT I AM WATCHING THE GAME .... then you start the stream "TERRITORY RESTRICTION" . wait WTF? I have a subscription? So you go the illegal stream route. Now the thing they used to do I believe, they would actually tell you who held the rights in your geographical area so you knew where to get it. Labels don't do that. There is no information. They don't redirect you to who the local rights label is. If they did it would be nice ... but they don't. One might be tempted to justify this "oh but it's not easy for them blah blah blah" EXCUSES. It's a business, BE PROFESSIONALS. Labels can be such jokers at times. There truly is no excuse for not doing this. It baffles me sometimes how poorly labels manage the content they sell online ... |
Joesph Kasian 26.07.2013 |
Originally Posted by loverocket
The guy who created iTunes - a place that the only way for Apple to make profit is to make and sell devices it works on - iTune prices are so low because Apple knows to use it properly you have to buy their magical products. That is where they make their money. Look up the stats of how many iTunes sales are made without an Apple device - they are minimal, Apple made iTunes, then said 'to use this amazing musical portal and our low prices, you must buy our $700 device'. As for 'performing a obstacle course' the restrictions are for a reason - a track is licensed from a label by other labels in different countries. Perhaps they have a big video and single release coming up of said track that they just licensed for $500,000. Why would they want to have it available in that country already for $1.50? It makes no sense. The video and single drops and everyone in that country then goes 'ah, I copped that last year, no thanks' - the single flops, the artist doesn't get his big advance anymore in that territory. Music is business, every aspect of it, from making music through to cut of the bar and the price of drinks in the venues we go, the faster you get used to that the quicker you'll advance up the ladder. |
Evalyn Voges 26.07.2013 |
Originally Posted by shr3dder
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Ara Tima 25.07.2013 |
Originally Posted by firebr4nd
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Margie Pavell 25.07.2013 | You believe they would want to see all they could... |
Ulysses Vittetoe 25.07.2013 | What's the reasoning behind those region resitrictions? I'm honestly curious. |
Ara Tima 25.07.2013 | Interesting addition to this thread. Just noticed this pop on Facebook.. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...count=1&ref=nf I wonder how many other artists have this opinion.. Or is it more an acknowledgement of defeat? |
Jerica Salava 16.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by Karlos Santos
It's a mash-up with Rober Gaez - Whore Bath. here is the show (track 10): https://soundcloud.com/davidpenn/dav...ntial-spring13 Here is a dude that recreated it. Nice job: https://soundcloud.com/nico-zevi/rob...ez-whore-paper |
Jerica Salava 16.06.2013 | They [BEATPORT] took the restrictions off for me. Last week I couldn't put it in the shopping cart. Now I can. |
nayit ruiz jaramillo 16.06.2013 | Its a good tune though. I just pre-ordered it (cant be arsed looking elsewhere than iTunes). |
Jerica Salava 16.06.2013 | I believe Warren Buffet, Steve Jobs, Donald Trump and Richard Branson would find that comedic ^ Basically having the customer perform an obstacle course to hand you money. That's retarded business. No excuses. |
Joesph Kasian 16.06.2013 | I find this a little funny...a topic of people who don't understand the reasons behind territory licensing moaning about the fact they can't buy a single. There are 101 reasons behind you not being able to buy certain tracks in certain countries. A much bigger picture than missing out on your 79p. I want to write more, but having just woke up I honestly can't be bothered. In the mean time, just use this - http://www.djranking s.com/2009/04/1...-restrictions/ - ironically written on the very website you are posting your complaint on. |
Jerica Salava 15.06.2013 | and then the bitches at the record labels heard about it and they said : "hmmm .............. emmm emm." boom: http://www.beatport.com/track/paper-...al-mix/4357607 |
Lang Abriel 11.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by R01
This is just another reasons more and more tunes are being given away for free... |
Latoria Kavulich 11.06.2013 | yes |
Jerica Salava 11.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by Jester
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Renate Mayeur 11.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by R01
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Latoria Kavulich 11.06.2013 | I had a similar issue a few weeks ago trying to buy Juno Reactor's new album. Literally every store was territory restricted, so fuck 'em |
Jerica Salava 11.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by Paka Ono
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Neville Blackinton 11.06.2013 | I believe the Oatmeal described it best: http://theoatmeal.com/comics/game_of_thrones |
Trey Brune 11.06.2013 | You got it Loverocket. The music industry is pretty weird when it comes to distribution. It's actually amazing it's worked for such a long time. Though I will say that the industry is pretty behind on digital distribution of any kind (pirating was available before legitimate digital music stores...). I agree that digital distribution should be more global though. Since we're not dealing with physical copies most of the time, distributors don't have much if any money to lose. They just take a cut of the profits anyway. A work around for this problem might be proxying in from a different territory to buy the track. Or if that doesn't work, seeking direct contact with the distributor or artist might be another way. |
Jerica Salava 11.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by Era 7
all of the wheeling and dealing should be done before the release. if no international partners are interested, the track should be released as a promo globally (no territory restrictions) for a limited time. if these sales are hot, then the international partners will be interested. if the sales are cold, then bite the bullet and global release on the original label. at least this model let's the artist have a global footprint throughout the process. |
Tesha Freudenstein 11.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by jamesmington
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Frederic Pankiewicz 11.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by lethal_pizzle
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Marshall Aby 10.06.2013 | Territory restrictions make no sense in a digital society, they are basically dooooooomed. |
Sonja Roybal 10.06.2013 | Tunes come out as vinyl only exclusives too. That doesn't mean I have the right to steal them. |
Jerica Salava 10.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by keithace
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Jerica Salava 10.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by lethal_pizzle
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Marshall Aby 10.06.2013 | http://www.junodownload.com/products...ne/2210491-02/ |
Margie Pavell 10.06.2013 | if it's a territory restriction...i understand... |
Emelina Chillson 10.06.2013 | use junodownload.com |
Jerica Salava 10.06.2013 | I don't see it there. They don't like my money either. |
Antonetta Wikel 10.06.2013 | Buy it on itunes? |
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