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Mixing two tracks in different bpm without effects
Posted on: 31.07.2013 by Hank Guidas
I have a problem. I'm playing a house/disco/funk set here in two weeks. Problem is that some of the tracks I'm playing seems to be recorded by an orchestra thus having a fluctuating bpm. I seriously don't know how to mix from one to another without the use of efx AND make it sounds good. I'm gonna be using a cdj and a mixer with no effects. Any ideas?
Deangelo Boender
01.08.2013
Originally Posted by 031999
an easy way to do that, is just grab a 4 bar loop of that intro, then it will be much easier to keep in time. then just cue the vocal drop, and drop it when your ready.
Word to this! Liberally apply the usage of loops and hot cues, if your cdj has hotcues.
Lannie Kutay
02.08.2013
Originally Posted by Dohjo
One of the tracks is this one



It doesn't sound instrumental, but the intro is impossible to keep in beat, without riding the pitch all the time ofc.

Buy it yourself and try. It's on juno. Sounds like a vinyl rip though, didn't know they were allowed to sell that.

And thanks for the tips. Gonna look into Abelton Warp, haven't heard of it before.
an easy way to do that, is just grab a 4 bar loop of that intro, then it will be much easier to keep in time. then just cue the vocal drop, and drop it when your ready.
Teresia Janusch
01.08.2013
Originally Posted by synthet1c
get ableton warp and re-record the track is about the only way, but if you are playing orchestral stuff you might need to just cut out sections and loop ones that work before piecing it back together.
pretty much this. its a lot of work, but the end result will pay off
Hank Guidas
31.07.2013
I have a problem. I'm playing a house/disco/funk set here in two weeks. Problem is that some of the tracks I'm playing seems to be recorded by an orchestra thus having a fluctuating bpm. I seriously don't know how to mix from one to another without the use of efx AND make it sounds good. I'm gonna be using a cdj and a mixer with no effects. Any ideas?
Arnulfo Morten
01.08.2013
scratch it in on the 1
Deangelo Boender
01.08.2013
Originally Posted by 031999
an easy way to do that, is just grab a 4 bar loop of that intro, then it will be much easier to keep in time. then just cue the vocal drop, and drop it when your ready.
Word to this! Liberally apply the usage of loops and hot cues, if your cdj has hotcues.
Lannie Kutay
02.08.2013
Originally Posted by Dohjo
One of the tracks is this one



It doesn't sound instrumental, but the intro is impossible to keep in beat, without riding the pitch all the time ofc.

Buy it yourself and try. It's on juno. Sounds like a vinyl rip though, didn't know they were allowed to sell that.

And thanks for the tips. Gonna look into Abelton Warp, haven't heard of it before.
an easy way to do that, is just grab a 4 bar loop of that intro, then it will be much easier to keep in time. then just cue the vocal drop, and drop it when your ready.
Sonja Roybal
02.08.2013
There's nothing wrong with quick mixing stuff like this. It's not meant to be beatmatched. Just do it at the right time to keep the set flowing.
Rolanda Clodfelder
02.08.2013
Out of curiosity I threw it into Ableton and used autowarp (warp from here) and it stayed perfectly in beat for the entire track, except the track drops 1/2 beat at the first break.
Teresia Janusch
01.08.2013
Originally Posted by synthet1c
get ableton warp and re-record the track is about the only way, but if you are playing orchestral stuff you might need to just cut out sections and loop ones that work before piecing it back together.
pretty much this. its a lot of work, but the end result will pay off
Jonathan Chiuchiolo
31.07.2013
It doesn't maintain the bpm because it's played live not arranged on a computer... If I were you I would tap out the bpm at the start and finish and get the average, and just warp the mixing points as you will lose some of the life in the middle of the track by warping. It also means that warping will take 5-10 mins rather than an hour or so to place every marker. As a side note VDJ8 will have flexible beatgrids so that could be an option in the future, or the now discontinued m-audio torq offers flexible beatgrids as well.
Hank Guidas
31.07.2013
One of the tracks is this one



It doesn't sound instrumental, but the intro is impossible to keep in beat, without riding the pitch all the time ofc.

Buy it yourself and try. It's on juno. Sounds like a vinyl rip though, didn't know they were allowed to sell that.

And thanks for the tips. Gonna look into Abelton Warp, haven't heard of it before.
Jonathan Chiuchiolo
31.07.2013
get ableton warp and re-record the track is about the only way, but if you are playing orchestral stuff you might need to just cut out sections and loop ones that work before piecing it back together.
Rolanda Clodfelder
31.07.2013
Ride the Pitch fader for the duration of the mix and make your transitions faster than usual .. all that I can suggest really.
Olin Easley
31.07.2013
Don't have both highs at the same time, make quicker transitions, mix on breakdowns. Or just get tunes which are supposed to be played at clubs. :P

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