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How do you "refresh" an iTunes playlist in Traktor?
Posted on: 02.08.2013 by Darlene Strohbeck
I use iTunes to organize my music, and use the "import playlist" option in Traktor to ensure that all the metadata can be viewed. This saves the playlist in the "playlist" section of the director on the left side of Traktor.

...Problem is, whenever I add new songs to iTunes, it doesn't show up in this list unless I delete and redo the "import playlist" option. The problem with that, is that all of the songs I have beatgridded and "locked" don't appear "locked until I actually load it into a deck in the transport section. I used to just go through this process and load every track into deck A, and B, as fast as I could, using my mouse, but the more my library grows the more this becomes a pain.

Is there any way to just refresh the playlists so Traktor automatically recognizes the new tracks?
Darlene Strohbeck
03.08.2013
Originally Posted by AllDay
"- Download tracks from my MP3 pool
- Cut them from the "download" folder, and "paste" them into my "Music" folder which is the folder where all my music is housed and where iTunes is directed to
- Add the track to iTunes, then put it the appropriate playlist(s)
- Open tracktor, scroll down to iTunes, find the appropriate playlist, right-click on import to collection, then right-click on import playlist."



According to your post above your music folder is the same as your itunes folder. As it should be.

You have your music folder set up in traktor and click analyze.


All your music files should be in the same folder regardless, all itunes is doing is making a playlist.
That's what I've been doing, except without the last step "right-click analyze". Will this analyze all tracks, or just the new ones? And I'm assuming you do this everytime you add new tracks to your itunes playlists?
Tera Baragan
02.08.2013
Originally Posted by tokenasianguy
Just so I make sure I follow, after I download them, before cutting and pasting into my iTunes music folder, import them into Traktor? How do you import tracks into Traktor? Also, if I then move the files into my iTunes music folder, will that impact Traktor's ability to find them?
"- Download tracks from my MP3 pool
- Cut them from the "download" folder, and "paste" them into my "Music" folder which is the folder where all my music is housed and where iTunes is directed to
- Add the track to iTunes, then put it the appropriate playlist(s)
- Open tracktor, scroll down to iTunes, find the appropriate playlist, right-click on import to collection, then right-click on import playlist."



According to your post above your music folder is the same as your itunes folder. As it should be.

You have your music folder set up in traktor and click analyze.


All your music files should be in the same folder regardless, all itunes is doing is making a playlist.
Darlene Strohbeck
02.08.2013
Originally Posted by AllDay
Make the traktor playlist into your music folder and import them first in to traktor to have them beatgridded.

Instead of you putting them in itunes first change that with traktor.
Just so I make sure I follow, after I download them, before cutting and pasting into my iTunes music folder, import them into Traktor? How do you import tracks into Traktor? Also, if I then move the files into my iTunes music folder, will that impact Traktor's ability to find them?
Tera Baragan
02.08.2013
Originally Posted by tokenasianguy
I'm not sure I follow.

How do you load them in traktor before loading them into iTunes if iTunes is what I use to organize my music?

This is what I do:

- Download tracks from my MP3 pool
- Cut them from the "download" folder, and "paste" them into my "Music" folder which is the folder where all my music is housed and where iTunes is directed to
- Add the track to iTunes, then put it the appropriate playlist(s)
- Open tracktor, scroll down to iTunes, find the appropriate playlist, right-click on import to collection, then right-click on import playlist.
Make the traktor playlist into your music folder and import them first in to traktor to have them beatgridded.

Instead of you putting them in itunes first change that with traktor.
Darlene Strohbeck
02.08.2013
Originally Posted by Patch
I've been working around this for a while now - I ***THINK*** I may have a (kind of)solution.

You import your tracks into Traktors collection BEFORE you bring them into iTunes.

That way, you can play each track from the iTunes node in Traktors browser (which does update dynamically), BUT Traktor reads the info from the collection - so all of your Tempo, cue and loop info is loaded with the Track.

Not tested, and I may be completely wrong. But it's worth a try...
Originally Posted by tricks
Yeah, I load and set all cue points/analysis in Traktor before I import for the first time into iTunes... I've never had a problem doing it that way not sure what everyone else does.
I'm not sure I follow.

How do you load them in traktor before loading them into iTunes if iTunes is what I use to organize my music?

This is what I do:

- Download tracks from my MP3 pool
- Cut them from the "download" folder, and "paste" them into my "Music" folder which is the folder where all my music is housed and where iTunes is directed to
- Add the track to iTunes, then put it the appropriate playlist(s)
- Open tracktor, scroll down to iTunes, find the appropriate playlist, right-click on import to collection, then right-click on import playlist.
Darlene Strohbeck
02.08.2013
Originally Posted by djmetalgear
im kind of confused with your question.....

itunes playlist will refresh if you right click and refresh, then you import that track to your collection and it auto beatgrids... im losing you somewhere inbetween your explaination.
I know, and it doesn't help that I'm probably not using the correct terminology either.

Let me see if I can explain in more detail.

When I get new tracks, they go right into iTunes, and I put them into various playlists (I have dozens). Then, when I open traktor, I go into the directory tree (don't know what it's called) on the left side of the user interface, and from the "iTunes" field, I find my playlist, and first right-click "Import to collection", then "import to playlist". This action then imports the playlist to the top of this navigation tree where it says "playlists". I do this because I saw someone on this community say that this is the only way to get Traktor to save the BPM info as it can't be read directly from "iTunes" within Traktor. The problem is, whenever I put add new tracks to iTunes, it doesn't automatically refresh into this list. Deleting it and re-importing is no problem except that it doesn't show me which tracks are already beatgridded via the little "lock" icon, so it requires me to physically load every single track in order to get this info.

Is there another way? I've heard people say that they play directly from the "track collection" except I do mobile DJ'ing and the tracks I play at events only makes up a small amount of everything I have, so I don't want to waste time filtering through a bunch of tracks I don't need, this is why the "playlist" is optimal.
Pierre Aliseo
02.08.2013
Originally Posted by Patch
I've been working around this for a while now - I ***THINK*** I may have a (kind of)solution.

You import your tracks into Traktors collection BEFORE you bring them into iTunes.

That way, you can play each track from the iTunes node in Traktors browser (which does update dynamically), BUT Traktor reads the info from the collection - so all of your Tempo, cue and loop info is loaded with the Track.

Not tested, and I may be completely wrong. But it's worth a try...

Yeah, I load and set all cue points/analysis in Traktor before I import for the first time into iTunes... I've never had a problem doing it that way not sure what everyone else does.
Darlene Strohbeck
02.08.2013
I use iTunes to organize my music, and use the "import playlist" option in Traktor to ensure that all the metadata can be viewed. This saves the playlist in the "playlist" section of the director on the left side of Traktor.

...Problem is, whenever I add new songs to iTunes, it doesn't show up in this list unless I delete and redo the "import playlist" option. The problem with that, is that all of the songs I have beatgridded and "locked" don't appear "locked until I actually load it into a deck in the transport section. I used to just go through this process and load every track into deck A, and B, as fast as I could, using my mouse, but the more my library grows the more this becomes a pain.

Is there any way to just refresh the playlists so Traktor automatically recognizes the new tracks?
Darlene Strohbeck
03.08.2013
Originally Posted by AllDay
"- Download tracks from my MP3 pool
- Cut them from the "download" folder, and "paste" them into my "Music" folder which is the folder where all my music is housed and where iTunes is directed to
- Add the track to iTunes, then put it the appropriate playlist(s)
- Open tracktor, scroll down to iTunes, find the appropriate playlist, right-click on import to collection, then right-click on import playlist."



According to your post above your music folder is the same as your itunes folder. As it should be.

You have your music folder set up in traktor and click analyze.


All your music files should be in the same folder regardless, all itunes is doing is making a playlist.
That's what I've been doing, except without the last step "right-click analyze". Will this analyze all tracks, or just the new ones? And I'm assuming you do this everytime you add new tracks to your itunes playlists?
Randal Biza
02.08.2013
tokenasianguy: I believe I know exactly what you mean and have the same problem. My workaround has been to reimport the playlist to Traktor every time I add new songs. It will be a duplicate playlist, so you will have an "_1" at the end, so it would be like "disco" and "disco_1". Delete the first playlist, "disco" in this case, and keep the second. Then do it all over again next time.

Not a perfect solution but it works for the most part.
Tera Baragan
02.08.2013
Originally Posted by tokenasianguy
Just so I make sure I follow, after I download them, before cutting and pasting into my iTunes music folder, import them into Traktor? How do you import tracks into Traktor? Also, if I then move the files into my iTunes music folder, will that impact Traktor's ability to find them?
"- Download tracks from my MP3 pool
- Cut them from the "download" folder, and "paste" them into my "Music" folder which is the folder where all my music is housed and where iTunes is directed to
- Add the track to iTunes, then put it the appropriate playlist(s)
- Open tracktor, scroll down to iTunes, find the appropriate playlist, right-click on import to collection, then right-click on import playlist."



According to your post above your music folder is the same as your itunes folder. As it should be.

You have your music folder set up in traktor and click analyze.


All your music files should be in the same folder regardless, all itunes is doing is making a playlist.
Darlene Strohbeck
02.08.2013
Originally Posted by AllDay
Make the traktor playlist into your music folder and import them first in to traktor to have them beatgridded.

Instead of you putting them in itunes first change that with traktor.
Just so I make sure I follow, after I download them, before cutting and pasting into my iTunes music folder, import them into Traktor? How do you import tracks into Traktor? Also, if I then move the files into my iTunes music folder, will that impact Traktor's ability to find them?
Tera Baragan
02.08.2013
Originally Posted by tokenasianguy
I'm not sure I follow.

How do you load them in traktor before loading them into iTunes if iTunes is what I use to organize my music?

This is what I do:

- Download tracks from my MP3 pool
- Cut them from the "download" folder, and "paste" them into my "Music" folder which is the folder where all my music is housed and where iTunes is directed to
- Add the track to iTunes, then put it the appropriate playlist(s)
- Open tracktor, scroll down to iTunes, find the appropriate playlist, right-click on import to collection, then right-click on import playlist.
Make the traktor playlist into your music folder and import them first in to traktor to have them beatgridded.

Instead of you putting them in itunes first change that with traktor.
Darlene Strohbeck
02.08.2013
Originally Posted by Patch
I've been working around this for a while now - I ***THINK*** I may have a (kind of)solution.

You import your tracks into Traktors collection BEFORE you bring them into iTunes.

That way, you can play each track from the iTunes node in Traktors browser (which does update dynamically), BUT Traktor reads the info from the collection - so all of your Tempo, cue and loop info is loaded with the Track.

Not tested, and I may be completely wrong. But it's worth a try...
Originally Posted by tricks
Yeah, I load and set all cue points/analysis in Traktor before I import for the first time into iTunes... I've never had a problem doing it that way not sure what everyone else does.
I'm not sure I follow.

How do you load them in traktor before loading them into iTunes if iTunes is what I use to organize my music?

This is what I do:

- Download tracks from my MP3 pool
- Cut them from the "download" folder, and "paste" them into my "Music" folder which is the folder where all my music is housed and where iTunes is directed to
- Add the track to iTunes, then put it the appropriate playlist(s)
- Open tracktor, scroll down to iTunes, find the appropriate playlist, right-click on import to collection, then right-click on import playlist.
Darlene Strohbeck
02.08.2013
Originally Posted by djmetalgear
im kind of confused with your question.....

itunes playlist will refresh if you right click and refresh, then you import that track to your collection and it auto beatgrids... im losing you somewhere inbetween your explaination.
I know, and it doesn't help that I'm probably not using the correct terminology either.

Let me see if I can explain in more detail.

When I get new tracks, they go right into iTunes, and I put them into various playlists (I have dozens). Then, when I open traktor, I go into the directory tree (don't know what it's called) on the left side of the user interface, and from the "iTunes" field, I find my playlist, and first right-click "Import to collection", then "import to playlist". This action then imports the playlist to the top of this navigation tree where it says "playlists". I do this because I saw someone on this community say that this is the only way to get Traktor to save the BPM info as it can't be read directly from "iTunes" within Traktor. The problem is, whenever I put add new tracks to iTunes, it doesn't automatically refresh into this list. Deleting it and re-importing is no problem except that it doesn't show me which tracks are already beatgridded via the little "lock" icon, so it requires me to physically load every single track in order to get this info.

Is there another way? I've heard people say that they play directly from the "track collection" except I do mobile DJ'ing and the tracks I play at events only makes up a small amount of everything I have, so I don't want to waste time filtering through a bunch of tracks I don't need, this is why the "playlist" is optimal.
Pierre Aliseo
02.08.2013
Originally Posted by Patch
I've been working around this for a while now - I ***THINK*** I may have a (kind of)solution.

You import your tracks into Traktors collection BEFORE you bring them into iTunes.

That way, you can play each track from the iTunes node in Traktors browser (which does update dynamically), BUT Traktor reads the info from the collection - so all of your Tempo, cue and loop info is loaded with the Track.

Not tested, and I may be completely wrong. But it's worth a try...

Yeah, I load and set all cue points/analysis in Traktor before I import for the first time into iTunes... I've never had a problem doing it that way not sure what everyone else does.
Brunilda Kora
02.08.2013
I've been working around this for a while now - I ***THINK*** I may have a (kind of)solution.

You import your tracks into Traktors collection BEFORE you bring them into iTunes.

That way, you can play each track from the iTunes node in Traktors browser (which does update dynamically), BUT Traktor reads the info from the collection - so all of your Tempo, cue and loop info is loaded with the Track.

Not tested, and I may be completely wrong. But it's worth a try...
Meaghan Machold
03.08.2013
im kind of confused with your question.....

itunes playlist will refresh if you right click and refresh, then you import that track to your collection and it auto beatgrids... im losing you somewhere inbetween your explaination.
Delena Katherman
02.08.2013
Right click on the iTunes icon on the left in the browser tree, then click "Refresh". Is that what you are talking about?

EDIT: I reread your post, and realize that you aren't asking as simple a question as I thought.

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