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Traktor Volume Question
Posted on: 21.03.2013 by Jody Reebel
So my last show was about 2 weeks ago... I am still pretty new to the whole djing thing, but I had a question concerning volume in Traktor...

I am going to try and explain this the best I can, so bare with me :/

My Traktor layout is pretty much

Limiter -3db
Master gain -10db
Deck Gain 0db each

My last show, the mix was actually kind of low, so I tried turning up the master gain my self, the volume jumped, and for a moment, I kind of screwed up my own set... I still feel kind of bad about it...

My next show is pretty soon, so I was wondering, what you guys run for volume settings in Traktor... Also, do you believe it would of been wise, for me to tell the PA people, to turn up the master out? The monitors at the show were really low also, so I brought 1 studio monitor, as a dedicated, and that helped a lot...

Hope to hear some feedback, thanks!
Stephnie Hubach
14.08.2013
Originally Posted by Jester
Set the headroom to -6db and leave the master gain on 0db. the way you have it now you are playing at -13db which is bloody quiet.
As long as you stay out of the red, you want the output to be as loud as possible!
p.s turn off the limiter, that is evil.


hello:

I just read this information and it seems its the one I was looking for. I recently had a problem with the audio while I was playing with Traktor. The mixer was a Mixer Pioneer 800, therefore I plugged in my stuff properly and the set up of my volumes were:

Main volume -4db
Deck gain in traktor 0db
channel gain in mixer +2db or +3db
Main volume in mixer 0db
Audio DJ8 sound card from native instruments
I connected my stuff with the traktor cratch pro cables BUT I WAS NOT USING THE PIONEER 1000MK3 AS CONTROLERS, I USED MY X1
KEEP IN MIND THAT I USE QUALITY MUSIC FROM BEATPORT

Someone was playing before with vinyls and when I started the volume and the quality dropped down drastically and even when I was trying to increase the volume in the mixer or in traktor, the volume and quality was not good. I tried to balance everything as much as possible but the final sound was something like having a SIDE CHAIN in place (now I believe this latter was because the limiter was on). So I played so and after me started to play another DJ with the same stuff but with a MOTU ultralight sound card, my surprise was that the volume and quality was by far much better than mine. So I don't understand what the hell happened. YOUR INPUT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.

Now I tried to setup my stuff as follow:

Main volume -6db
Autogain ON per Deck volume in traktor
Limiter OFF
channel gain in mixer 0db
Main volume in mixer 0db
Audio DJ8 sound card from native instruments
I connected my stuff WITH SIMPLE RCA CABLES AND I CONTROL EVERYTHING WITH MY X1

1.-what do you believe?
2.- what should I do?
3.- is not my sound card of good quality?
4.- would I improve my sound quality if I change my sound card? which one? I wanna sound like a pro
5.- what could happen such day?
6.- what are the crucial points to check before starting to play?
7.- why my sound quality is too bad?

THANKS IN ADVANCE
Temple Cervelli
22.03.2013
Originally Posted by Jester
Set the headroom to -6db and leave the master gain on 0db. the way you have it now you are playing at -13db which is bloody quiet.
As long as you stay out of the red, you want the output to be as loud as possible!
p.s turn off the limiter, that is evil.
I'm going to set mine to this also, I have never played with any volume parameters in Traktor before.. I just thought I was supposed to use my mixer/speaker volume. Learn something new everyday...

Thanks
Jody Reebel
21.03.2013
Originally Posted by Jester
Yep, this way you should have about +/- 3db to play with on the track decks with no problems
Ya, I knew this was a problem, cause I played my "Boom" track, at my last show, and the break downs were like pretty much non existent, volume wise @__@ I was like, wtf, I can't even hear it... It should be better, this time around...

Thanks again! <3

Jody Reebel
21.03.2013
Originally Posted by Jester
Set the headroom to -6db and leave the master gain on 0db. the way you have it now you are playing at -13db which is bloody quiet.
As long as you stay out of the red, you want the output to be as loud as possible!
p.s turn off the limiter, that is evil.
LOL Okay, I believe this works a lot better... I am in the orange, but it doesn't clip, so that's good...

*note* I thought u had to have the limiter on, to set the headroom, I thought it was linked with it some how, guess not...

Thanks! Gunna rock this next show harder, now that my volume issues are fixed >: D
Jody Reebel
21.03.2013
So my last show was about 2 weeks ago... I am still pretty new to the whole djing thing, but I had a question concerning volume in Traktor...

I am going to try and explain this the best I can, so bare with me :/

My Traktor layout is pretty much

Limiter -3db
Master gain -10db
Deck Gain 0db each

My last show, the mix was actually kind of low, so I tried turning up the master gain my self, the volume jumped, and for a moment, I kind of screwed up my own set... I still feel kind of bad about it...

My next show is pretty soon, so I was wondering, what you guys run for volume settings in Traktor... Also, do you believe it would of been wise, for me to tell the PA people, to turn up the master out? The monitors at the show were really low also, so I brought 1 studio monitor, as a dedicated, and that helped a lot...

Hope to hear some feedback, thanks!
Stephnie Hubach
14.08.2013
hello:

I just read this information and it seems its the one I was looking for. I recently had a problem with the audio while I was playing with Traktor. The mixer was a Mixer Pioneer 800, therefore I plugged in my stuff properly and the set up of my volumes were:

Main volume -4db
Deck gain in traktor 0db
channel gain in mixer +2db or +3db
Main volume in mixer 0db
Audio DJ8 sound card from native instruments
I connected my stuff with the traktor cratch pro cables BUT I WAS NOT USING THE PIONEER 1000MK3 AS CONTROLERS, I USED MY X1
KEEP IN MIND THAT I USE QUALITY MUSIC FROM BEATPORT

Someone was playing before with vinyls and when I started the volume and the quality dropped down drastically and even when I was trying to increase the volume in the mixer or in traktor, the volume and quality was not good. I tried to balance everything as much as possible but the final sound was something like having a SIDE CHAIN in place (now I believe this latter was because the limiter was on). So I played so and after me started to play another DJ with the same stuff but with a MOTU ultralight sound card, my surprise was that the volume and quality was by far much better than mine. So I don't understand what the hell happened. YOUR INPUT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.

Now I tried to setup my stuff as follow:

Main volume -6db
Autogain ON per Deck volume in traktor
Limiter OFF
channel gain in mixer 0db
Main volume in mixer 0db
Audio DJ8 sound card from native instruments
I connected my stuff WITH SIMPLE RCA CABLES AND I CONTROL EVERYTHING WITH MY X1

1.-what do you believe?
2.- what should I do?
3.- is not my sound card of good quality?
4.- would I improve my sound quality if I change my sound card? which one? I wanna sound like a pro
5.- what could happen such day?
6.- what are the crucial points to check before starting to play?
7.- why my sound quality is too bad?

THANKS IN ADVANCE
Stephnie Hubach
14.08.2013
Originally Posted by Jester
Set the headroom to -6db and leave the master gain on 0db. the way you have it now you are playing at -13db which is bloody quiet.
As long as you stay out of the red, you want the output to be as loud as possible!
p.s turn off the limiter, that is evil.


hello:

I just read this information and it seems its the one I was looking for. I recently had a problem with the audio while I was playing with Traktor. The mixer was a Mixer Pioneer 800, therefore I plugged in my stuff properly and the set up of my volumes were:

Main volume -4db
Deck gain in traktor 0db
channel gain in mixer +2db or +3db
Main volume in mixer 0db
Audio DJ8 sound card from native instruments
I connected my stuff with the traktor cratch pro cables BUT I WAS NOT USING THE PIONEER 1000MK3 AS CONTROLERS, I USED MY X1
KEEP IN MIND THAT I USE QUALITY MUSIC FROM BEATPORT

Someone was playing before with vinyls and when I started the volume and the quality dropped down drastically and even when I was trying to increase the volume in the mixer or in traktor, the volume and quality was not good. I tried to balance everything as much as possible but the final sound was something like having a SIDE CHAIN in place (now I believe this latter was because the limiter was on). So I played so and after me started to play another DJ with the same stuff but with a MOTU ultralight sound card, my surprise was that the volume and quality was by far much better than mine. So I don't understand what the hell happened. YOUR INPUT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.

Now I tried to setup my stuff as follow:

Main volume -6db
Autogain ON per Deck volume in traktor
Limiter OFF
channel gain in mixer 0db
Main volume in mixer 0db
Audio DJ8 sound card from native instruments
I connected my stuff WITH SIMPLE RCA CABLES AND I CONTROL EVERYTHING WITH MY X1

1.-what do you believe?
2.- what should I do?
3.- is not my sound card of good quality?
4.- would I improve my sound quality if I change my sound card? which one? I wanna sound like a pro
5.- what could happen such day?
6.- what are the crucial points to check before starting to play?
7.- why my sound quality is too bad?

THANKS IN ADVANCE
Jody Reebel
26.03.2013
My show was on the 23rd, and it went pretty well... Thank's again Jester...
Latoria Kavulich
22.03.2013
Thats right. You will need to fiddle with levels etc to get it "just right" for your particular setup. I use the settings i mentioned, but i also use a mixer, so the final levels are set using the master and trims on that.
Addie Engbrecht
22.03.2013
It's not as straightforward as just copying settings, but I guess you can get a relative idea. Just remember that if someone is mixing internally they prob will have their volume settings lower to allow for added EQ, also depends on how people may or may not adjust or even use autogain. With that being said, I have 0 headroom and master volume set at -2.8 at the moment, and I also always mix externally
Temple Cervelli
22.03.2013
Originally Posted by Jester
Set the headroom to -6db and leave the master gain on 0db. the way you have it now you are playing at -13db which is bloody quiet.
As long as you stay out of the red, you want the output to be as loud as possible!
p.s turn off the limiter, that is evil.
I'm going to set mine to this also, I have never played with any volume parameters in Traktor before.. I just thought I was supposed to use my mixer/speaker volume. Learn something new everyday...

Thanks
Jody Reebel
21.03.2013
Originally Posted by Jester
Yep, this way you should have about +/- 3db to play with on the track decks with no problems
Ya, I knew this was a problem, cause I played my "Boom" track, at my last show, and the break downs were like pretty much non existent, volume wise @__@ I was like, wtf, I can't even hear it... It should be better, this time around...

Thanks again! <3

Latoria Kavulich
21.03.2013
Yep, this way you should have about +/- 3db to play with on the track decks with no problems
Jody Reebel
21.03.2013
Originally Posted by Jester
Set the headroom to -6db and leave the master gain on 0db. the way you have it now you are playing at -13db which is bloody quiet.
As long as you stay out of the red, you want the output to be as loud as possible!
p.s turn off the limiter, that is evil.
LOL Okay, I believe this works a lot better... I am in the orange, but it doesn't clip, so that's good...

*note* I thought u had to have the limiter on, to set the headroom, I thought it was linked with it some how, guess not...

Thanks! Gunna rock this next show harder, now that my volume issues are fixed >: D
Latoria Kavulich
21.03.2013
Set the headroom to -6db and leave the master gain on 0db. the way you have it now you are playing at -13db which is bloody quiet.
As long as you stay out of the red, you want the output to be as loud as possible!
p.s turn off the limiter, that is evil.

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