I got this mixer for free from a friend, what do I do with it? It's a Behringer Euroback UB1202 mixer, I believe this is used for Guitar players and in bands?
Does anyone know how exactly the setup would work?
As in, what exactly is needed to control the channels and what other gear is needed to connect this thing for it's intended purpose?
I have a friend who wants me to join his band but I doubt they'd know how to use this, and I'm practically clueless when it comes to Guitar related gear
.
Ignore the RCA cables, they're not connected to anything. Just for show.
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Nancey Inderlied
22.08.2013 |
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
What he means is, you plug your TTs into the Vestax, then take RCA line output from the Vestax into channels 1 and 2 of the Eurorack which will give you a full 3 band EQ (although only on your master output). You then connect your speakers/amplifier to the L and R "Main Out" on the Eurorack, either using balanced TRS-TRS, TRS-XLR cables, or unbalanced TRS/TS to RCA.
You can also plug a microphone into channels 3 or 4 of the Eurorack for announcements, vocals, gangsta rap, etc
EDIT: There IS actually a way to basically use that setup as a ghetto send/return system; basically you run your TTs in mono (you can use a stereo-to-mono adapter - NOT a Y splitter to preserve both channels' sound), and split the line output into two mono channels on the eurorack which gives you a 3 band EQ and FX per-channel, but it's a bit of a "meh" way of doing things.
Uhh, guys, Xenyx mixers dont output a balanced signal, the last I checked. Maybe some models vary, but every single model I've bothered to check the manual for outputs over an unbalanced 1/4" TS. |
Doreen Schurle
22.08.2013 |
Originally Posted by Danek
Would I still be able to control the EQ knobs on the Vestax mixer if I do that? And would I connect the RCA to 1/4" cords in the Line 1 & Line 2 or Phono 1 & Phono 2 of the Vestax Mixer?
What he means is, you plug your TTs into the Vestax, then take RCA line output from the Vestax into channels 1 and 2 of the Eurorack which will give you a full 3 band EQ (although only on your master output). You then connect your speakers/amplifier to the L and R "Main Out" on the Eurorack, either using balanced TRS-TRS, TRS-XLR cables, or unbalanced TRS/TS to RCA.
You can also plug a microphone into channels 3 or 4 of the Eurorack for announcements, vocals, gangsta rap, etc
EDIT: There IS actually a way to basically use that setup as a ghetto send/return system; basically you run your TTs in mono (you can use a stereo-to-mono adapter - NOT a Y splitter to preserve both channels' sound), and split the line output into two mono channels on the eurorack which gives you a 3 band EQ and FX per-channel, but it's a bit of a "meh" way of doing things. |
Dia Laryea
22.08.2013 |
Originally Posted by jam1chicago
well seeing as you're working with a Vestax 06 pro, the sound quality on that vestax mixer isn't the best. Especially since it lacks a middle channel EQ. You could use this mixer your friends gave you to help clean up the overall master sound since it has a full 3 band EQ on it. You would plug your 06 into Channels 1 and 2 (or just channel 1 if you wanted to go mono) with a RCA to 1/4" cord, you could then spice up your sound through that quite nicely.
Would I still be able to control the EQ knobs on the Vestax mixer if I do that? And would I connect the RCA to 1/4" cords in the Line 1 & Line 2 or Phono 1 & Phono 2 of the Vestax Mixer? |
Dia Laryea
21.08.2013 |
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
You lucky bastard! Scoring one of those for free is one hell of a win.
If I were you, I'd be using it as your primary microphone input and to EQ the output from your mixer before routing to speakers/PA system. Anything which gives you additional control over the signal you output to the sound system is a nice bonus to have.
I'm planning on getting something similar (probably one of the Xenyx ones) to balance the output from my Z1 for long cable runs.
So do I get two pairs of RCA cables and connect them to the Phono inputs of my Vestax Mixer to be able to work the microphones? |
nayit ruiz jaramillo
21.08.2013 |
Originally Posted by Bassline Brine
Basically, it's something you can plug a lot of different things into, and then route the output to your speakers (eventually) after going through stuff. (Simple terms).
A buddy of mine uses one in his home studio before he goes to his speakers so that he can plug in his DJing mixer, any controllers, and then mics and stuff directly into that. It just keeps things simple if you are constantly plugging in and unplugging things.
THIS 100%
That's how my studio is setup. One pair of monitors and all music sources routed through the main mixer.
Desktop PC, 1210s, S4 setup, production computer etc a go into the mixer.
Makes life simpler.
Also means others can plug in and jam with you easily.
To be fair those little Eurorack behringers are fine for a home setup. |
Nancey Inderlied
21.08.2013 |
Originally Posted by Paka Ono
No, I mean full on PA (public address) / pro audio system. A system with one or more of the following: DSP, EQ, compressor/limiters, amplifiers.
Signal chain would be something like this. DJ Mixer (unbalanced) -> Behringer mixer (balanced) -> DSP -> EQ -> Compressor/limiter -> amplifiers -> speakers.
IIRC, the cheap Behringer mixers don't output a balanced signal. |
Neville Blackinton
21.08.2013 |
Originally Posted by Danek
The DSP & EQ part got me a tad bit confused, are those separate gear
? Could you show me a picture of what they'd look like? As for everything else, thanks! I understand now.
Btw when you said compressor/limiter, I'm guessing you're referring to something like this? http://qualityelectronics.net/media/.../c/dc22sfp.jpg
Sorry didn't mean to confuse you. But in general those pieces of audio gear
usually require balanced audio signals.
Yes that is a compressor/limiter.
DSP = digital signal processor - http://www.qscaudio.com/products/dsp/dsp30/dsp30.htm
EQ = equalizer - http://www.rane.com/deq60l.html
And like other people have mentioned you can use those mixers for connecting other audio devices such as synths, drum machines, and samplers. |
Rufus Ondrick
21.08.2013 |
Originally Posted by Danek
Wouldn't that require like a Traktor Audio 10 Interface though?
Like i said "its not made for djing yet djing is possible with it". any mixer that does not have a traktor certified soundcard will need the traktor interface in order for it to work with traktor. same goes for your vestax dj mixer unless it has a traktor soundcard built in then it wont work with traktor. |
Dia Laryea
20.08.2013 |
Originally Posted by tothecloudd
its the same as the vestax mixer you have the only difference is its not made for djing yet djing is possible with it. it could be a master mixer or something idk. output from your vestax could go to 1 input channel and someones drum machine like an akai mpc for example could go to your 2nd channel and so fort this way you could dj and someone could jam out with you
Wouldn't that require like a Traktor Audio 10 Interface though? |
Dia Laryea
20.08.2013 |
Originally Posted by Paka Ono
No, I mean full on PA (public address) / pro audio system. A system with one or more of the following: DSP, EQ, compressor/limiters, amplifiers.
Signal chain would be something like this. DJ Mixer (unbalanced) -> Behringer mixer (balanced) -> DSP -> EQ -> Compressor/limiter -> amplifiers -> speakers.
The DSP & EQ part got me a tad bit confused, are those separate gear
? Could you show me a picture of what they'd look like? As for everything else, thanks! I understand now.
Btw when you said compressor/limiter, I'm guessing you're referring to something like this? http://qualityelectronics.net/media/.../c/dc22sfp.jpg |
Dia Laryea
20.08.2013 |
Originally Posted by Paka Ono
That mixer is not guitar centric, but Live PA/Pro audio centric.
Pretty handy if you need to interface with an audio system that requires balanced inputs/outputs.
So what exactly would it control? What do you mean by audio system? As in passive speakers? |
Dia Laryea
20.08.2013 | It's a Behringer Euroback UB1202 mixer, I believe this is used for Guitar players and in bands?
Does anyone know how exactly the setup would work?
As in, what exactly is needed to control the channels and what other gear is needed to connect this thing for it's intended purpose?
I have a friend who wants me to join his band but I doubt they'd know how to use this, and I'm practically clueless when it comes to Guitar related gear
.
Ignore the RCA cables, they're not connected to anything. Just for show.
Full view:
|
Nancey Inderlied
22.08.2013 |
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
What he means is, you plug your TTs into the Vestax, then take RCA line output from the Vestax into channels 1 and 2 of the Eurorack which will give you a full 3 band EQ (although only on your master output). You then connect your speakers/amplifier to the L and R "Main Out" on the Eurorack, either using balanced TRS-TRS, TRS-XLR cables, or unbalanced TRS/TS to RCA.
You can also plug a microphone into channels 3 or 4 of the Eurorack for announcements, vocals, gangsta rap, etc
EDIT: There IS actually a way to basically use that setup as a ghetto send/return system; basically you run your TTs in mono (you can use a stereo-to-mono adapter - NOT a Y splitter to preserve both channels' sound), and split the line output into two mono channels on the eurorack which gives you a 3 band EQ and FX per-channel, but it's a bit of a "meh" way of doing things.
Uhh, guys, Xenyx mixers dont output a balanced signal, the last I checked. Maybe some models vary, but every single model I've bothered to check the manual for outputs over an unbalanced 1/4" TS. |
Doreen Schurle
22.08.2013 |
Originally Posted by Danek
Would I still be able to control the EQ knobs on the Vestax mixer if I do that? And would I connect the RCA to 1/4" cords in the Line 1 & Line 2 or Phono 1 & Phono 2 of the Vestax Mixer?
What he means is, you plug your TTs into the Vestax, then take RCA line output from the Vestax into channels 1 and 2 of the Eurorack which will give you a full 3 band EQ (although only on your master output). You then connect your speakers/amplifier to the L and R "Main Out" on the Eurorack, either using balanced TRS-TRS, TRS-XLR cables, or unbalanced TRS/TS to RCA.
You can also plug a microphone into channels 3 or 4 of the Eurorack for announcements, vocals, gangsta rap, etc
EDIT: There IS actually a way to basically use that setup as a ghetto send/return system; basically you run your TTs in mono (you can use a stereo-to-mono adapter - NOT a Y splitter to preserve both channels' sound), and split the line output into two mono channels on the eurorack which gives you a 3 band EQ and FX per-channel, but it's a bit of a "meh" way of doing things. |
Dia Laryea
22.08.2013 |
Originally Posted by jam1chicago
well seeing as you're working with a Vestax 06 pro, the sound quality on that vestax mixer isn't the best. Especially since it lacks a middle channel EQ. You could use this mixer your friends gave you to help clean up the overall master sound since it has a full 3 band EQ on it. You would plug your 06 into Channels 1 and 2 (or just channel 1 if you wanted to go mono) with a RCA to 1/4" cord, you could then spice up your sound through that quite nicely.
Would I still be able to control the EQ knobs on the Vestax mixer if I do that? And would I connect the RCA to 1/4" cords in the Line 1 & Line 2 or Phono 1 & Phono 2 of the Vestax Mixer? |
Alton Bettiga
22.08.2013 | well seeing as you're working with a Vestax 06 pro, the sound quality on that vestax mixer isn't the best. Especially since it lacks a middle channel EQ. You could use this mixer your friends gave you to help clean up the overall master sound since it has a full 3 band EQ on it. You would plug your 06 into Channels 1 and 2 (or just channel 1 if you wanted to go mono) with a RCA to 1/4" cord, you could then spice up your sound through that quite nicely. |
Dia Laryea
21.08.2013 |
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
You lucky bastard! Scoring one of those for free is one hell of a win.
If I were you, I'd be using it as your primary microphone input and to EQ the output from your mixer before routing to speakers/PA system. Anything which gives you additional control over the signal you output to the sound system is a nice bonus to have.
I'm planning on getting something similar (probably one of the Xenyx ones) to balance the output from my Z1 for long cable runs.
So do I get two pairs of RCA cables and connect them to the Phono inputs of my Vestax Mixer to be able to work the microphones? |
Doreen Schurle
21.08.2013 | You lucky bastard! Scoring one of those for free is one hell of a win.
If I were you, I'd be using it as your primary microphone input and to EQ the output from your mixer before routing to speakers/PA system. Anything which gives you additional control over the signal you output to the sound system is a nice bonus to have.
I'm planning on getting something similar (probably one of the Xenyx ones) to balance the output from my Z1 for long cable runs. |
Dia Laryea
21.08.2013 | Cool, thanks everyone, guess this is a nifty thing to have around. |
nayit ruiz jaramillo
21.08.2013 |
Originally Posted by Bassline Brine
Basically, it's something you can plug a lot of different things into, and then route the output to your speakers (eventually) after going through stuff. (Simple terms).
A buddy of mine uses one in his home studio before he goes to his speakers so that he can plug in his DJing mixer, any controllers, and then mics and stuff directly into that. It just keeps things simple if you are constantly plugging in and unplugging things.
THIS 100%
That's how my studio is setup. One pair of monitors and all music sources routed through the main mixer.
Desktop PC, 1210s, S4 setup, production computer etc a go into the mixer.
Makes life simpler.
Also means others can plug in and jam with you easily.
To be fair those little Eurorack behringers are fine for a home setup. |
Nancey Inderlied
21.08.2013 |
Originally Posted by Paka Ono
No, I mean full on PA (public address) / pro audio system. A system with one or more of the following: DSP, EQ, compressor/limiters, amplifiers.
Signal chain would be something like this. DJ Mixer (unbalanced) -> Behringer mixer (balanced) -> DSP -> EQ -> Compressor/limiter -> amplifiers -> speakers.
IIRC, the cheap Behringer mixers don't output a balanced signal. |
Neville Blackinton
21.08.2013 |
Originally Posted by Danek
The DSP & EQ part got me a tad bit confused, are those separate gear
? Could you show me a picture of what they'd look like? As for everything else, thanks! I understand now.
Btw when you said compressor/limiter, I'm guessing you're referring to something like this? http://qualityelectronics.net/media/.../c/dc22sfp.jpg
Sorry didn't mean to confuse you. But in general those pieces of audio gear
usually require balanced audio signals.
Yes that is a compressor/limiter.
DSP = digital signal processor - http://www.qscaudio.com/products/dsp/dsp30/dsp30.htm
EQ = equalizer - http://www.rane.com/deq60l.html
And like other people have mentioned you can use those mixers for connecting other audio devices such as synths, drum machines, and samplers. |
Rufus Ondrick
21.08.2013 |
Originally Posted by Danek
Wouldn't that require like a Traktor Audio 10 Interface though?
Like i said "its not made for djing yet djing is possible with it". any mixer that does not have a traktor certified soundcard will need the traktor interface in order for it to work with traktor. same goes for your vestax dj mixer unless it has a traktor soundcard built in then it wont work with traktor. |
Audrey Pinda
20.08.2013 | Basically, it's something you can plug a lot of different things into, and then route the output to your speakers (eventually) after going through stuff. (Simple terms).
A buddy of mine uses one in his home studio before he goes to his speakers so that he can plug in his DJing mixer, any controllers, and then mics and stuff directly into that. It just keeps things simple if you are constantly plugging in and unplugging things. |
Keturah Wasco
20.08.2013 | according to your gear
s in the pic,
DJ Mixer out to the Line 5/6
Laptop speaker out to the Tape in-out
Z4 speaker to the Control Room or Main Out
Press "Tape to Control Room" and/or "Tape to Mix" button.
Do not press "Phantom" unless you are connecting a Condenser Microphone.
You won't need input 1/2/3/4 those are for microphones,
you can connect other things on 5/6/7/8/9/10/11/12 (4 stereo gear
s)
sorry if i misunderstood your question. |
Dia Laryea
20.08.2013 |
Originally Posted by tothecloudd
its the same as the vestax mixer you have the only difference is its not made for djing yet djing is possible with it. it could be a master mixer or something idk. output from your vestax could go to 1 input channel and someones drum machine like an akai mpc for example could go to your 2nd channel and so fort this way you could dj and someone could jam out with you
Wouldn't that require like a Traktor Audio 10 Interface though? |
Dia Laryea
20.08.2013 |
Originally Posted by Paka Ono
No, I mean full on PA (public address) / pro audio system. A system with one or more of the following: DSP, EQ, compressor/limiters, amplifiers.
Signal chain would be something like this. DJ Mixer (unbalanced) -> Behringer mixer (balanced) -> DSP -> EQ -> Compressor/limiter -> amplifiers -> speakers.
The DSP & EQ part got me a tad bit confused, are those separate gear
? Could you show me a picture of what they'd look like? As for everything else, thanks! I understand now.
Btw when you said compressor/limiter, I'm guessing you're referring to something like this? http://qualityelectronics.net/media/.../c/dc22sfp.jpg |
Neville Blackinton
20.08.2013 | No, I mean full on PA (public address) / pro audio system. A system with one or more of the following: DSP, EQ, compressor/limiters, amplifiers.
Signal chain would be something like this. DJ Mixer (unbalanced) -> Behringer mixer (balanced) -> DSP -> EQ -> Compressor/limiter -> amplifiers -> speakers. |
Rufus Ondrick
20.08.2013 | its the same as the vestax mixer you have the only difference is its not made for djing yet djing is possible with it. it could be a master mixer or something idk. output from your vestax could go to 1 input channel and someones drum machine like an akai mpc for example could go to your 2nd channel and so fort this way you could dj and someone could jam out with you |
Dia Laryea
20.08.2013 |
Originally Posted by Paka Ono
That mixer is not guitar centric, but Live PA/Pro audio centric.
Pretty handy if you need to interface with an audio system that requires balanced inputs/outputs.
So what exactly would it control? What do you mean by audio system? As in passive speakers? |
Neville Blackinton
20.08.2013 | That mixer is not guitar centric, but Live PA/Pro audio centric.
Pretty handy if you need to interface with an audio system that requires balanced inputs/outputs. |
