Midi fighter 3D being called an 'idiotic toy' I came across this article which kinda defames Richie Hawtin, I find it quite stupid but then I was kinda angry when they referred the 3d midi fighter as an 'idiotic toy'.
http://sabotagetimes.com/music/richi...comment-161155
Clearly the writer has no idea about the 'toy', thought I would share with djtt community, I'm also not a fan of giving the site more traffic/attention, mods can feel free to delete the post if they believe its a waste of time. I believe these blogs just defame big names to generate more traffic, I commented there as 'chayan', but it won't show up cause its still under moderation. |
Muoi Odonohoe
29.08.2013 |
Originally Posted by Patch
I know the answer to this.
We are perfectly familiar with guitarists being expressive when they play. And we do not call them silly because, guitar players that have reached such a standard that they CAN make huge expressive movements without looking silly and without missing a note are in most cases, massively talented individuals. They've been playin for so long, and they are so familiar with the guitar, that the instrument is practically an extension of their body. Sounds a bit corny, but it's true.
Guys that swing a Midifighter around the room after 3 weeks practice look like knobs because they are NOT familiar with their instrument. They look uncomfortable, and awkward. And there is nothing wrong with that. If a guitar player with 3 weeks experience starting wailing, he too, would look uncomfortable and awkward.
Inexperience shows through, and sync makes it easy for a controllerist of 3 weeks experience to believe he is the shit.
And that, friends, is why a controllerist with 3 weeks experience, believes that he looks cool when swinging his instrument around his head.
True expressive movements are almost subconcious. They come about when exitement meets unconcious competance.
A little personal hate of mine, actually, is these people that make huge hand gestures when mixing. Tweaking a knob by 0.5mm then retracting the hand like it was burned makes my blood boil. All this banging a button and withdrawing the hand to the shoulder is laughable.
Please don't do it.
Sometimes it's unconscious when I (and others) get really into a set to start mixing with a little more emphasis. Adjustments that aren't tempo/beat-sensitive are still made in-time and with exaggerated movements because nobody is watching me and I'm into it, loving it, just doing my thing. I don't flip out like Steve Angello would but I still have fun. It's like accelerating in a car faster than you need to: it's fun, exciting, and even if it is a little more unconscious work it still gets you to the same destination. |
Doreen Schurle
29.08.2013 |
Originally Posted by Patch
Please don't do it.
I'm guilty of this as well, and it bugs me JUST as much as it does you |
Hellen Mindrup
29.08.2013 |
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
You've got an unnecessary "the" in there Kwal :P
That hurt |
Forrest Weeks
29.08.2013 |
Originally Posted by city_boy07
I doubt hawtin cares what's written about him.
You bet. |
Doreen Schurle
28.08.2013 |
Originally Posted by ProfessorStrangeman
/thread
You've got an unnecessary "the" in there Kwal :P |
Wilton Keuning
27.08.2013 |
Originally Posted by Kwal
Minimal house is the shit.
/thread |
Lannie Kutay
27.08.2013 |
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Who the hell is that godawful chav? :-\
Haha that's Riff Raff the quintessential white rapper from USA whose lyrics make absolutely no sense at all, yet he makes baller money.... |
Muoi Odonohoe
29.08.2013 |
Originally Posted by Patch
I know the answer to this.
We are perfectly familiar with guitarists being expressive when they play. And we do not call them silly because, guitar players that have reached such a standard that they CAN make huge expressive movements without looking silly and without missing a note are in most cases, massively talented individuals. They've been playin for so long, and they are so familiar with the guitar, that the instrument is practically an extension of their body. Sounds a bit corny, but it's true.
Guys that swing a Midifighter around the room after 3 weeks practice look like knobs because they are NOT familiar with their instrument. They look uncomfortable, and awkward. And there is nothing wrong with that. If a guitar player with 3 weeks experience starting wailing, he too, would look uncomfortable and awkward.
Inexperience shows through, and sync makes it easy for a controllerist of 3 weeks experience to believe he is the shit.
And that, friends, is why a controllerist with 3 weeks experience, believes that he looks cool when swinging his instrument around his head.
True expressive movements are almost subconcious. They come about when exitement meets unconcious competance.
A little personal hate of mine, actually, is these people that make huge hand gestures when mixing. Tweaking a knob by 0.5mm then retracting the hand like it was burned makes my blood boil. All this banging a button and withdrawing the hand to the shoulder is laughable.
Please don't do it.
Sometimes it's unconscious when I (and others) get really into a set to start mixing with a little more emphasis. Adjustments that aren't tempo/beat-sensitive are still made in-time and with exaggerated movements because nobody is watching me and I'm into it, loving it, just doing my thing. I don't flip out like Steve Angello would but I still have fun. It's like accelerating in a car faster than you need to: it's fun, exciting, and even if it is a little more unconscious work it still gets you to the same destination. |
Doreen Schurle
29.08.2013 |
Originally Posted by Patch
Please don't do it.
I'm guilty of this as well, and it bugs me JUST as much as it does you |
Ervin Calvery
29.08.2013 | I believe that's pretty fair, Patch.
Although, I believe that a LOT of people who fancy themselves as guitarists are kidding themselves just as much as bad DJs. Part of our shared distaste for the exaggerated motions is style, though. I believe most of the guitars for sale at Guitar Center or similar are very stupid looking and also believe that some controllers look much more like toys than others. |
Brunilda Kora
29.08.2013 |
Originally Posted by VanGogo
Originally Posted by BFLY
I also believe the midi fighter 3d is a bit toyish. Some of the videos of people using it and waiving it about look daft.
I understand what you mean, and agree, but this might be because we aren't used to seeing such "instruments" being used expressively?
A guitar player can sit calmly and play any song or style, so why wouldn't we call them silly for raising the neck in the air when hitting high notes, or slamming it down on the power chord? Same with horn players etc. Why can't controllerists play with expression and not have it look daft? I believe it's because it is just less familiar to us.
I know the answer to this.
We are perfectly familiar with guitarists being expressive when they play. And we do not call them silly because, guitar players that have reached such a standard that they CAN make huge expressive movements without looking silly and without missing a note are in most cases, massively talented individuals. They've been playin for so long, and they are so familiar with the guitar, that the instrument is practically an extension of their body. Sounds a bit corny, but it's true.
Guys that swing a Midifighter around the room after 3 weeks practice look like knobs because they are NOT familiar with their instrument. They look uncomfortable, and awkward. And there is nothing wrong with that. If a guitar player with 3 weeks experience starting wailing, he too, would look uncomfortable and awkward.
Inexperience shows through, and sync makes it easy for a controllerist of 3 weeks experience to believe he is the shit.
And that, friends, is why a controllerist with 3 weeks experience, believes that he looks cool when swinging his instrument around his head.
True expressive movements are almost subconcious. They come about when exitement meets unconcious competance.
A little personal hate of mine, actually, is these people that make huge hand gestures when mixing. Tweaking a knob by 0.5mm then retracting the hand like it was burned makes my blood boil. All this banging a button and withdrawing the hand to the shoulder is laughable.
Please don't do it. |
Hellen Mindrup
29.08.2013 |
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
You've got an unnecessary "the" in there Kwal :P
That hurt |
Forrest Weeks
29.08.2013 |
Originally Posted by city_boy07
I doubt hawtin cares what's written about him.
You bet. |
Hayden Raugh
28.08.2013 | I doubt hawtin cares what's written about him. |
Breanne Penge
28.08.2013 | Manimal house |
Doreen Schurle
28.08.2013 |
Originally Posted by ProfessorStrangeman
/thread
You've got an unnecessary "the" in there Kwal :P |
Wilton Keuning
27.08.2013 |
Originally Posted by Kwal
Minimal house is the shit.
/thread |
Lannie Kutay
27.08.2013 |
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Who the hell is that godawful chav? :-\
Haha that's Riff Raff the quintessential white rapper from USA whose lyrics make absolutely no sense at all, yet he makes baller money.... |
Charline Dye
27.08.2013 |
Originally Posted by BFLY
I also believe the midi fighter 3d is a bit toyish. Some of the videos of people using it and waiving it about look daft.
I understand what you mean, and agree, but this might be because we aren't used to seeing such "instruments" being used expressively?
A guitar player can sit calmly and play any song or style, so why wouldn't we call them silly for raising the neck in the air when hitting high notes, or slamming it down on the power chord? Same with horn players etc. Why can't controllerists play with expression and not have it look daft? I believe it's because it is just less familiar to us. |
Doreen Schurle
27.08.2013 |
Originally Posted by 031999
Haha yeah that pretty much sums up the American rapper lol
Who the hell is that godawful chav? :-\ |
Hellen Mindrup
27.08.2013 |
Originally Posted by P4ULSON
I really don't care about the midi fighter hardware is hardware. but as for Ritchie Hawtin..... Yea i do feel his music is boring and repetitive. He was one of the few artist that got 2 sets at EDC and well both sets were boring and lack luster. The guys in my crew believe the same. We love music but shit is boring. Minimalist house haha wtf right
Minimal house is the shit. |
Yong Aptekar
27.08.2013 | I believe the keytar is an idiotic toy too, but it is an entertaining instrument. So is the midi fighter 3d |
Lannie Kutay
27.08.2013 |
Originally Posted by rdej47
Jesus christ.....
Haha yeah that pretty much sums up the American rapper lol |
Johnsie Kingrea
27.08.2013 |
Originally Posted by 031999
ughhh i hate reading stuff like this. If I ever wrote a story like this I would kill myself. So hateful.
How to deal with Haters......
skip to 1:57, i promise you...you will not be disappointed
Jesus christ..... |
Arnulfo Morten
27.08.2013 | I really don't care about the midi fighter hardware is hardware. but as for Ritchie Hawtin..... Yea i do feel his music is boring and repetitive. He was one of the few artist that got 2 sets at EDC and well both sets were boring and lack luster. The guys in my crew believe the same. We love music but shit is boring. Minimalist house haha wtf right |
Lawana Spratlen
27.08.2013 | I also believe the midi fighter 3d is a bit toyish. Some of the videos of people using it and waiving it about look daft. |
Lannie Kutay
27.08.2013 | ughhh i hate reading stuff like this. If I ever wrote a story like this I would kill myself. So hateful.
How to deal with Haters......
skip to 1:57, i promise you...you will not be disappointed
|
