Ignoring the touch sensitive portion of the DDJ-T1 jog dial with Traktor Pro 2

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Ignoring the touch sensitive portion of the DDJ-T1 jog dial with Traktor Pro 2
Posted on: 30.01.2013 by Lolita Sotiropoulos
Hey guys,

I've got a guck question for you. I've got a gig this Friday and I'll be using the Pioneer DDJ-T1 with Traktor. Throughout my DJing career I've only ever used CDJ-1000s and CDJ-2000s so am a bit worried but still excited for the gig to try out new things. The only issue I'm having is the behaviour of the Jog Wheels on the T1. When a track is playing if I push the jog wheel forwards or backwards from the edge, they act like they normally would in CD mode on a set of 1000s/2000s (speeding up or slowing down the track), but if I was to try the same thing by pressing on the top touch-sensitive platter, they act as vinyl records, so if I hold it down, the track stops completely. If I hold them down and move forwards the track moves forwards but is prone to distorting like a record, and if I hold the platter down and move backwards the track rewinds rather than just slowing down.

What I'm hoping for is a way for Traktor to ignore the press of the Jog Dial all together and then they would only be used for speeding up/slowing down.

I hope there is a way to do this in the mapping but I can't figure out how. I'm using the mapping directly from Pioneer with Traktor Pro 2.6. It can be found here

http://pioneerdj.com/support/product...&p=DDJ-T1&t=72

Thanks!
Lolita Sotiropoulos
30.01.2013
Originally Posted by Stewe
These are the one:

Add in > Deck common > Jog turn / encoder-relative
Add in > Deck common > Jog touch / button-hold
So I've added those two in (Using Xtreme Mapping), but what will that do? Will it overwrite the current settings and do I need to select anything under the "Mapped To" section?

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Kellie Myrum
31.01.2013
Look for MIDI translator, I never use those so some other users might be more helpful on that base.
Lolita Sotiropoulos
31.01.2013
Yeah, If I can find a way to make it work, I will definitely share it. My only other thought was to try and filter out the MIDI note for the Jog Press from the DDJ-T1 before it gets to Traktor. For example, DDJ-T1 connected to Mac, all MIDI runs through magical program which passes everything through to Traktor except for the note responsible for the Jog Press.

Do you know if anything like this exists?
Kellie Myrum
31.01.2013
That could be hardware issue (now I recall that's heard before), look for MIDI diagram at Pio site and see which channel and note massage does it send so you can assign it manually using mouse. Now I'm quite sure there's something wrong with DDJ-T1 platters and that's the reason for zero decent mappings for downloading.

You are welcome mate! If you get done with this please add TSI to mapping page for everybody.
Lolita Sotiropoulos
31.01.2013
Ok, will give that a try when I pick up the decks tomorrow afternoon. When I first tried mapping the jog press the other day, Trakor was flashing up "Not Assiginable" or something like that. Do you have any ideas why that might be?

Also, thanks for all the help Stewe, I really appreciate it
Kellie Myrum
31.01.2013
Ok you have add in now you'll need to assign it to jog using 'learn' button.

Learn ON > mark command > touch/move jogwheel and value will appear > set type > assign it to desired deck > Learn OFF > test
Lolita Sotiropoulos
30.01.2013
Originally Posted by Stewe
These are the one:

Add in > Deck common > Jog turn / encoder-relative
Add in > Deck common > Jog touch / button-hold
So I've added those two in (Using Xtreme Mapping), but what will that do? Will it overwrite the current settings and do I need to select anything under the "Mapped To" section?

Screen Shot 2013-01-31 at 3.32.41 PM.jpg
Lolita Sotiropoulos
30.01.2013
I'm not near my computer so I can't try it out but will let you know if I can get it working.
Kellie Myrum
30.01.2013
Hey, any luck so far?
Kellie Myrum
30.01.2013
These are the one:

Add in > Deck common > Jog turn / encoder-relative
Add in > Deck common > Jog touch / button-hold
Lolita Sotiropoulos
30.01.2013
That's what I thought. It just seems strange that even though the dials aren't mapped, they still work. Last evening was my first time using Traktor haha. Which one of the mappings should I add the Jog dial commands into? There are two that are imported from the pioneer file. Don't really want to start from scratch either as everything else works fine.
Kellie Myrum
30.01.2013
Just downloaded it and you're correct (shitty mapping). You'll need to manually add it.

You got some basic mapping skills?
Lolita Sotiropoulos
30.01.2013
Nope, pretty sure I downloaded the one for 2.5. If you load it into Traktor on your end, can you see anything about Jog Touch?
Kellie Myrum
30.01.2013
Sorry for dumb question. Did you download the first or second? First one seems to be for 2.1 - that would explain missing commands.
Lolita Sotiropoulos
30.01.2013
It's the one directly from Pioneer

http://pioneerdj.com/support/product...&p=DDJ-T1&t=72
Kellie Myrum
30.01.2013
It was a while back and unfortunately we didn't finish it because he stopped replying - guess he got on track. Can you attach your mapping in reply so I could check it for those commands?
Lolita Sotiropoulos
30.01.2013
I'm using 2.6. When I tried to add the mapping into Traktor there was no device control that corresponded to touching the Jog dial. Do you have access to that mapping?
Kellie Myrum
30.01.2013
I don't own one... Was helping once with mapping for this unit where I saw full MIDI diagram. What do you mean there is no jog touch and turn commands? Which version do you run?
Lolita Sotiropoulos
30.01.2013
That's the problem I've got though, with the mappings, there is no mention of Jog Turn or Jog Touch. It just simply works like that. Do you own one yourself? If you could share a config file with me I'd really appreciate it.
Kellie Myrum
30.01.2013
DDJ-T1 jogwheel send two different CC massages depends on touch 'n' turn or simply nudge on side part. You should be able to read which massage is sent via touch 'n' turn then scroll trough commands list and delete duplicates named 'jog turn' and 'jog touch'. Part two would be reading 'the nudge' CC massage and then looking for same CC named 'jog turn' > duplicating it and assign with touch.

This way both CC will pitchband your tracks.
Lolita Sotiropoulos
30.01.2013
If it's not possible to do this through Traktor, is there a way that I can get my Mac/Traktor to simply ignore the MIDI notes responsible for pressing the jog wheel down? That way, Traktor would only ever see me speeding up or slowing down the track and never "scratching".
Jonathan Chiuchiolo
30.01.2013
dunno, don't have one
Lolita Sotiropoulos
30.01.2013
Originally Posted by synthet1c
nope.. there is a vinyl mode button on CDJ's, but to the OP.. Did you try the "active" button?
The Active button doesn't do it. Isn't that for looping?
Jonathan Chiuchiolo
30.01.2013
Originally Posted by kooper1980
Aren't CDJ's the same? outer jog wheel for pitch bend and the top of the jogwheel for vinyl control?
nope.. there is a vinyl mode button on CDJ's, but to the OP.. Did you try the "active" button?
Kristofer Krauel
30.01.2013
Aren't CDJ's the same? outer jog wheel for pitch bend and the top of the jogwheel for vinyl control?

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